Long term consequences of same-sex marriage?

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Jay74:

For the most part, I agree. I wouldn’t say “mental disorder” since it will motivate opponents of your perspective to accuse you of hating gays, then they’ll just insult you instead of making intellectual arguments.

Here is my arguments against gay marriage:

1. Children do much better with mother’s and fathers. This is undeniable. Gay marriage would deprive children of a mother or father. There are many reasons people end up without a mother or without a father, but gay marriage would guarantee it by design.
2. Society would announce (even more than its already has) that fathers are unnecessary, since two mothers are equivalent to a mother and father. Fatherlessness has been a disaster this past generation–do we really want to encourage it more?
3. Society would announce that mothers are unnecessary, since two fathers are equivalent to a father and mother. Fatherlessness has been a disaster this past generation–do we really want to experiment with motherlessness too?
4. Gay relations spread disease much greater than heterosexual relationships. We can concede that this may argue in favor of gay marriage–after all, if gays are more faithfully committed, they may not have as many partners to spread disease. That conceded, we must acknowledge that it may actually increase gay promiscuity–after all, societies that esteem gay relations have more of it, more children will grow up considering the same sex as partners (after all, it’s equal, they’re married), and consequently have more premarital gay sex than societies that did not hold gay relations on the same level as heterosexual ones.
5. Once we break the “man-woman” definition that is as old as the earth, the number of people is what is important rather than the specialness of the man-woman bond. That number would be 2, for now–on what moral grounds could it be left at 2 if we cross that line?
6. As with #5, if it is a personal decision and attraction, and not the specialness of man-woman relations, what about incest? If that disgusts you, they would answer “Well, then don’t do it but don’t impose your will on others?” like they do now.

People often say “oh, that’s just a slippery slope argument” to discredit us, but the sad thing is that it really is a slippery slope.

Gay marriage is a pandora’s box we don’t want to open.

With that said, though–I must say with great sadness that before we blame gays for trying to ruin marriage, we must acknowledge the damage done to marriage by heterosexuals. The marriage situation won’t improve unless we have a spiritual renewal.

Thank you for these great arguments! As a current Episcopalian, beginning RCIA, I whole-heartedly agree!

 

[buffalo]

Anarchy!!!

 

[sparkle]

Dear David B:

Forgive me brother if I am way off tract, but I remember reading some other posts of yours on this topic. I would just like to say to you, off the top of my head, that this is NOT God’s best for your life, or for any of your dear friends that might be involved in this lifestyle. There are, and will be HUGE negative consequences for this David. Please, Trust God, tell your loved ones to do the same, and pray, that God might show you/them the way HE has cut out for you/them. It’s the only way to true fulfillment.

My very best friend in the whole world is gay. He is miserable, has been thru H___, if you only knew. He is a precious creative soul like me, kindred spirits, we were both in the fashion world, and the world of antiques, music and artists, (a common place for gays) --but he knows he has settled for a life less than God’s best for him. It is still so hard though for him. I feel it is one of the crosses God has put in his life for him, and perhaps for many a priest as well. I pray constantly for him and his soul. There is a better way, is all I can say, for all who struggle with this. It is a struggle, but so worth it in the end friend.

God Loves YouDon’t ever forget no matter how dismal the road
Look up today in your Bible the hereinbelow~~
Jeremiah 29:11

 

[David_B]

Thank you for your kind words. When I originally thought of this thread awhile I was very interested in thinking of logical arguments that could be used against same-sex marriage, specifically the results of it on society over the long term. It was definitely an emotionally attached request to think of arguments in an almost academic way, but you do bring the human/emotional part into this with your own best friend.

I suppose I’ve been fortunate that no close friends or relatives have been in the same predicament.

Everyone who’s in this lifestyle certainly needs our prayers, and those that love them as well.

sparkle:

Dear David B:

Forgive me brother if I am way off tract, but I remember reading some other posts of yours on this topic. I would just like to say to you, off the top of my head, that this is NOT God’s best for your life, or for any of your dear friends that might be involved in this lifestyle. There are, and will be HUGE negative consequences for this David. Please, Trust God, tell your loved ones to do the same, and pray, that God might show you/them the way HE has cut out for you/them. It’s the only way to true fulfillment.

My very best friend in the whole world is gay. He is miserable, has been thru H___, if you only knew. He is a precious creative soul like me, kindred spirits, we were both in the fashion world, and the world of antiques, music and artists, (a common place for gays) --but he knows he has settled for a life less than God’s best for him. It is still so hard though for him. I feel it is one of the crosses God has put in his life for him, and perhaps for many a priest as well. I pray constantly for him and his soul. There is a better way, is all I can say, for all who struggle with this. It is a struggle, but so worth it in the end friend.

God Loves YouDon’t ever forget no matter how dismal the road
Look up today in your Bible the hereinbelow~~
Jeremiah 29:11

 

[k5thbeatle]

Not sure that this would be a reason you would want to give but I found this to be interesting (and I am sorry I do not remember exactly where I read this):

“No civilization in all of recorded history that has ever adopted homosexuality has ever survived and in fact when such practices were adopted a direct link can be shown to the beginning of that civilizations downfall.”

Unfortunately some will use this as justification for “gay-bashing” which is also evil and not right but I still found this to be an interseting statement.

 

[David_B]

k5thbeatle:

Not sure that this would be a reason you would want to give but I found this to be interesting (and I am sorry I do not remember exactly where I read this):

“No civilization in all of recorded history that has ever adopted homosexuality has ever survived and in fact when such practices were adopted a direct link can be shown to the beginning of that civilizations downfall.”

Unfortunately some will use this as justification for “gay-bashing” which is also evil and not right but I still found this to be an interseting statement.

Yes, this might be an interesting statement to do some digging on.