Long ties at mass?

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Neil_Anthony said:
What’s more important: what everyone else is doing, or what God wants you to do?
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Is there scripture or Church teaching that says what God wants us to wear to Mass?
What do you put first: the traditions of men who tell you what’s ‘cool’ or ‘proper’ to wear before 6pm? Or do you make the decision based on what is the ABSOLUTE BEST presentation you can do for the Lord at Holy Mass?
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Who decides what is the best presentation? Why is a Tuxedo good and jeans bad?
 
stinkcat_14 said:
While I certainly could afford formal attire to wear to mass, that doesn’t necessarily mean that purchasing such attire would be a prudent use of the resources that God has entrusted me with. After all, the money spent on the clothes and the time and money spent having them dry cleaned, etc, might be better spent furthering my walk with God in some other way.
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Perhaps you could find something at the Salvation Army or goodwill. it doesn’t have to be the most expensive tuxedo, just make sure it is clean, any tears are sewn, it is well ironed (with starch) and that the bowtie is white.
 
James0235 said:
It’s the Wedding Feast of the Lamb. Proper dress would be a tux. 😃

James
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Except in the morning; then it’s striped pants and cutaway. Dinner jackets (vulgarly referred to as Tuxedos) before 5:00 p.m. should be conspicuous in their absence.
 
I will not let the vain fashion designers dictate what is appropriate for me to wear. Fashiion is so fickle. Fashion changes in our society every season. Why conform to that? What about the poor souls that can’t buy a tux, they will surely stnad out as not dressed properly. Wait that was in the marriage feast parable - maybe we should throw them out.
 
hilde_the_dog said:
I will not let the vain fashion designers dictate what is appropriate for me to wear. Fashiion is so fickle. Fashion changes in our society every season. Why conform to that? What about the poor souls that can’t buy a tux, they will surely stnad out as not dressed properly. Wait that was in the marriage feast parable - maybe we should throw them out.
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Conventional formal attire does not fall under the “fashion” rubric. Cutaways haven’t changed a particle in 75 years. Most men I know who have owned more than one dinner jacket in 20 years have had to up-size. It certainly didn’t have anything to do with the width of the lapels. I will say, though, that when DH bought a new one this spring, his 1973 model was starting to look a litte, um, interesting.
 
OK, I’ll take the bait. :rolleyes:

If you receive a formal invitation in the mail with an RSVP every Sunday, then by all means, dress in a tux. 😃

Otherwise, its come as you are.

Jim
 
Neil_Anthony said:
Is there some public event that is more important than the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass? Is there some guest of honor more important than our Lord?

Would you even compare meeting the pope to meeting Jesus Christ himself?

Today almost anyone can afford formal attire. It is no longer something only within reach of the rich.

What could possibly be a more important event than receiving Christ at Holy Mass?
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It is not that I don’t understand the importance of the Mass. It is that you don’t understand the traditional use of these garments. You are arguing that importance and formality are the same thing. Traditionally, however, it has never been seen that way. Tuxedoes are not simply the attire most suitable for meeting a person of importance or for an occasion of particular importance. They are the attire suitable for a particular class of social occasions, and that is all.

For instance, if one went to the opera, one might traditionally have worn a tuxedo or a ball gown. If one went to the Inauguration of the President of the United States, one would* always* have been unsuitably dressed if one were to show up in the same clothing. This does not imply that the opera is more important than the Inauguration of the President of the United States.

Besides, St. James did not say that everybody should show up for Mass richly dressed. Quite the opposite. He was very clear that the man who showed up in poor dress should not get treatment that was inferior to the man who showed up richly dressed. I think that answers the question about what people “should” be able to afford with regards to clothing.
 
EasterJoy said:
It is not that I don’t understand the importance of the Mass. It is that you don’t understand the traditional use of these garments. You are arguing that importance and formality are the same thing. Traditionally, however, it has never been seen that way. Tuxedoes are not simply the attire most suitable for meeting a person of importance or for an occasion of particular importance.
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You are correct. The suitable attire for such an occasion is white tie, not tuxedo. Which gets back to my original point about men wearing clothes other than white tie to mass.
 
Neil_Anthony said:
You are correct. The suitable attire for such an occasion is white tie, not tuxedo. Which gets back to my original point about men wearing clothes other than white tie to mass.
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Here’s a YouTube of Ronald Reagan’s 2nd Inaugural Address.
youtube.com/watch?v=iMlJ7mIedL4&feature=related
Mr. Reagan, I think we can agree, was a man of correct dress. You won’t see a tuxedo on him or anyone in the crowd nearest him, let alone a white tie.

If you were to convince Catholics that every Mass is “white tie”, which implies that every woman should be in a formal gown, too, you would certainly be starting a new tradition. I’m not thinking you’ll succeed.
 
EasterJoy said:
Here’s a YouTube of Ronald Reagan’s 2nd Inaugural Address.
youtube.com/watch?v=iMlJ7mIedL4&feature=related
Mr. Reagan, I think we can agree, was a man of correct dress. You won’t see a tuxedo on him or anyone in the crowd nearest him, let alone a white tie.

If you were to convince Catholics that every Mass is “white tie”, which implies that every woman should be in a formal gown, too, you would certainly be starting a new tradition. I’m not thinking you’ll succeed.
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Why would you compare the mass to an inauguration? Would it not be more like receiving royalty:

See this picture of George W. Bush receiving Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.



Note that the president in dressed in formal white tie, and before 6pm at that.
 
Dress as Adam and Eve did before the fall

and don’t wear the necktie that Judas chose to wear.

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MrS said:
Dress as Adam and Eve did before the fall

and don’t wear the necktie that Judas chose to wear.

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OK. Now, that’s a good one.

:rotfl:

That brings to mind something. Anyone familiar with Star Trek may know this:
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During a Betazoid wedding, tradition dictates that all people present must appear without clothes at the wedding ceremony, to honor the act of love the ceremony commemorates.**
(Memory Alpha: Betazoid wedding)

😃

James
 
Respectfully my brothers and sisters, you all have it wrong. You are putting a 20th century wardrobe spin on standing before God. Clearly, scripture has the answer:…They stood before the throne and before the Lamb, wearing white robes and holding palm branches in their hands…All the angels stood around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They prostrated themselves before the throne, worshiped God, and exclaimed: "Amen. Blessing and glory, wisdom and thanksgiving, honor, power, and might be to our God forever and ever. Amen. Then one of the elders spoke up and said to me, “Who are these wearing white robes, and where did they come from?”…these are the ones who have survived the time of great distress; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."For this reason they stand before God’s throne and worship him day and night in his temple. The one who sits on the throne will shelter them. Rev 7:9, 11-15So clearly, the proper attire to stand in front of God is a white robe. Now, the only question: Terrycloth or Satin?
 
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