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Hi, my first entry into the fray.

I am looking for a good (orthodox) parish in the Kansas City KS, Shawnee area.

Thanks.
 
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DewiSant:
Hi, my first entry into the fray.

I am looking for a good (orthodox) parish in the Kansas City KS, Shawnee area.

Thanks.
Dewi Sant,

Hello and welcome to the Catholic Answers Forums!

Unfortunately since I am in Northwest Florida I can’t help you with finding a good parish in Kansas City, Kansas. I would encourage you to start with the one within whose boundaries you live, though, and stick with it unless you absolutely can’t. Church is supposed to be family, and while you can pick and choose your friends you are given your family.
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When we helped our daughter get a start with her kids, we had one parish where we were registered, and one where we went to Mass- a good hour from our home, where we went not only for the great liturgy, but a nearby restaurant that makes all its baked and pan goods with real butter. That would have been a big crawl every week with two little kids in diapers. Besides, it offered the children no continuity nor consistency.

SO- We all sat down and, just as if we were in a business meeting, made up a list of what we felt was important in a parish. We narrowed it down to ten items. We put the ten items into an Excel in the first column. We put the local parishes across the first row at the top of each column.

Armed with these in our car (but not taken inside- Hey, we were going to Mass!), we would attend Mass, being sure to speak to a few people before and after, and pick up a bulletin. We then picked off the items we found with a checkmark under the column for each parish. Every Sunday, we covered another parish- sometimes, two. And then we started going back to some of them, until we came up with the one we wanted, where we could be of service and they met our needs as well.

If you’re not big on Excel, you can use a ruler and pencil. Same result.

But only YOU know what you need, and what your family needs.
 
All your advice was great and well received, but the parish search is not for me but my sister and her husband. Husband is not Catholic and sister is not up on the differences in churches. I read on this site in the past about good solid parishes in the KC area but forgot the names. I was hoping some of you would remember them and pass them on to me.

It is the hope of my wife and I to help bring brother-in-law into the faith and since we don’t live in their area we want to guide them to a good parish where he will receive good faith formation.

Thanks again for responding.
 
Hello!

We live in the KC area. We attend the Cathedral parish in Kansas City, KS. My husband grew up there. We were married there and now we raise our children there. When we began going there, we found it to be a good option for our family.

I don’t know anything about any of the other parishes in that area. We actually live in the MO side and attend in KCKS…so we just don’t know about other parishes.

God Bless you for helping your sister.
 
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DewiSant:
Hi, my first entry into the fray.

I am looking for a good (orthodox) parish in the Kansas City KS, Shawnee area.

Thanks.
A friend of mine is in the Shawnee area. She recently switched to St Joseph parish as her’s was a bit loosy goosy feeling. St. Jo has a wonderful Adoration Chapel.

Here is the website.

stjosephshawnee.org/

For a parish directory by country, the Archdioceses wesite is

archkck.org/
 
Hi DewiSant,

I am curious about why you have used the Cymraeg/Welsh name of Saint David as your username; are you originally from Cymru/Wales?

Oh and Croeso/Welcome to the forums 🙂
 
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Marie:
A friend of mine is in the Shawnee area. She recently switched to St Joseph parish as her’s was a bit loosy goosy feeling. St. Jo has a wonderful Adoration Chapel.

Here is the website.

stjosephshawnee.org/

For a parish directory by country, the Archdioceses wesite is

archkck.org/
I can give you a second on St. Joseph in Shawnee.

I was on a business trip there last summer and attended Mass there. Homily was very good, and orthodox (Fr. managed to fit in a condemnation of contraception!). The Adoration Chapel was very nice as well. Having Perpetual Adoration at a parish is always a good thing!! 👍

Architecture isn’t the greatest, and I remember the EMHC’s came up too early but 'ya can’t have everything 😉

Ascension in Overland Park was also very nice too. I did morning Mass there a few times as well.
 
Pious,

I spent time in Wales studying and was speaking yr hen iath by the time I left. A beautiful language and country.

Thanks.

DewiSant
 
As you should know, a parish is a geographical subdivision of a diocese. The church which serves the parish is something totally distinct.

A Catholic who lives within the borders of a parish is automatically a member of that parish.

So, if you want to be a member of a good (orthodox) parish you need to move into a parish that has a good (orthodox) parish church.

Maybe if the folks at realtor.com would let the folks use “parish” as a variable along with zip codes, number of bathrooms, and parking, it might help the people find an appropriate home in a parish of their liking.
 
I have heard a lot of good things about Sacred Heart parish in Shawnee as well. No personal experience with St.Joseph in Shawnee, but I don’t particularly care for Good Sheperd which is another parish in that area.
 
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Kielbasi:
As you should know, a parish is a geographical subdivision of a diocese. The church which serves the parish is something totally distinct.

A Catholic who lives within the borders of a parish is automatically a member of that parish.

So, if you want to be a member of a good (orthodox) parish you need to move into a parish that has a good (orthodox) parish church.

Maybe if the folks at realtor.com would let the folks use “parish” as a variable along with zip codes, number of bathrooms, and parking, it might help the people find an appropriate home in a parish of their liking.
It is not that way on the MO side. We can go join where we want to. My friend from Shawnee changed with no problem so I assume it is the same on the Kansas side…
 
It is not that way on the MO side. We can go join where we want to.
If you’re permitted to do that, and I believe it since you said you are, its clearly an abuse. Canon Law addresses domiciles and quasidomiciles in regards to membership in the church. There isn’t a word about selecting your own parish based upon orthodoxy, or whether it meets your tastes. Of course, any Catholic can attend mass at any parish, but you’re supposed to belong to the parish in which you live.

diopitt.org/serves_tribunal_canon.php
PARISH TERRITORY AND MEMBERSHIP

For approximately the first four centuries of the history of the Church, the bishop and his presbyters cared for the spiritual needs of the faithful within the diocese. With the end of the persecutions and the increasing number of faithful, provision needed to be made for those in outlying areas and villages. At first some of the cathedral clergy were assigned to permanent outposts creating parishes within the diocese.

The 1917 Code of Canon law described the common understanding of “parish” through the centuries. A parish was understood to be a territorial section of the diocese, with a proper church building, to which a Catholic population was assigned, under the leadership of a proper pastor, who was responsible for the care of souls. (canon 216) By way of exception, personal parishes were possible based on language, nationality or rite; but the clear preference in the law was the territorial parish. It was highly visible and practical as a basis for a faith community.

The 1983 Code of Canon Law stresses the parish as community above organization (canon 515) but continues to favor the territorial structure as a practical and necessary value (canon 518). The Pastor has the obligation to provide sacramental and catechetical ministry to all the Christian faithful within his territory and to collaborate in the building up of a Christian community. The faithful living within the territory of the parish have their own obligations to build up the kingdom of God by participation in worship and the life of the parish and to support its work.

The parish church is present in the community as a sign and rallying point for the parish family. Baptisms and weddings take place there because they are not only personal family events but also celebrations of the parish family of faith. The more parishioners attend the weekly celebration of the Eucharist the more real this faith community becomes. Parishioners have a right and obligation to be present and worship at the altar of their parish church. They have a right to receive sacraments, education and pastoral care from their parish. They also have the obligation to give good example by being present at liturgy as much as possible, to make themselves known to their pastor, and to be supportive of their parish with their time, talent and treasure.

In our mobile society people are used to traveling around to shop or dine according to their tastes. The official church regulations regarding parish boundaries seem arcane today. A recent study by the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA) at Georgetown University indicated that about a quarter of Catholics regularly attend parishes outside of their neighborhoods. While it is true that you may attend Mass wherever you may wish, it is not true that you can register as a member of a parish if you do not live there. Pastors cannot give permission for their parishioners to join another parish. Neither can the diocesan bishop grant such permission.

The law of the church is not unlike civil law in determining membership in a given parish. While we might be free to make certain choices in our lives, some things are determined for us, and for good reason. Just as membership in a school district or township is governed by the territory in which one lives (one cannot freely choose to belong to some other township without moving), this same principle is applicable to membership in a parish.

Pastors should be welcoming to all who come to worship at their church. They should, however, encourage people to be active members of the parishes where they live. For the good of the Church at large, pastors should suggest that people be registered in their home parish, be known to their proper pastors and supportive of their territorial parish even if they have good reasons to frequently worship elsewhere. It can be tempting and flattering to ignore the issue of territory in signing up new members. Yet, neighboring pastors working together in respecting parish boundaries can foster a greater spirit of Unity and Church.
 
If you’re interested in the Missouri side, I suggest Our Lady of Good Counsel in Westport. Msgr. Blacet is a dear old priest who celebrates the new Mass with reverence and dignity. There’s a boatload of orthodox books and pamphlets in the back of the church, a real confessional (not a “Reconcilliation Room”) and gorgeous traditional architecture. Every Saturday morning Mass is followed by Rosary, DM Chaplet and Benediction.

Redemptorist is another good one. The priests aren’t particularly noteworthy, but they aren’t heterodox either. In fact, we got a great homily on Purgatory last All Soul’s Day. Most Masses are rather run of the mill with nothing to differentiate them from any other American parish. No egregious liturgical abuses that I’ve seen. They have two hours of confession every Saturday and confessions before every weekday Mass too. What distinguishes Redemptorist is the stunning architecture. It will literally take your breath away the first time you see it. This is the type of church that raises your mind to God whenever you walk in it.

And of course, the Latin Mass at Our Lady of Sorrows at Crown Center is always a favorite. Soon to be re-located to old St. Patricks downtown. Can’t wait. :bounce:

As for Kansas, the only experience I have is the Latin Mass at Blessed Sacrament. Some people claim it’s in a “bad” neigborhood, but I’ve never really felt threatened. I don’t think it’s terrible at all.

Nativity parish in Leawood is where Fr. Corapi will be speaking in March. I don’t know anything about Nativity, but if they’re inviting Fr. Corapi, they can’t be bad, right? 😉
 
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Kielbasi:
If you’re permitted to do that, and I believe it since you said you are, its clearly an abuse. Canon Law addresses domiciles and quasidomiciles in regards to membership in the church. There isn’t a word about selecting your own parish based upon orthodoxy, or whether it meets your tastes. Of course, any Catholic can attend mass at any parish, but you’re supposed to belong to the parish in which you live.

diopitt.org/serves_tribunal_canon.php
Here our parish boundries are not such an issue. We have several which fall in the same boundries. Then there is the school factor etc. Not all parishes have schools. Rest assured we don’t break any laws or Canons around here. But we don’t get uptight about it if someone wants to go downtown to the Latin Parish or another.

We just have to let the pastor know…period. I can go to the “Sky Lodge” parish which is .5 miles closer or to my parish where we have always gone before we moved a shade further North.

And the “SKY LODGE” is on the way out as soon as they build the new church which will then be further from me than my parish.
Anyway, the Bishop approved it all long ago. If the New Bishop changes it, well…we will just have to move again. 😃 Not!!!
 
The 83 code of canon law allows Catholics to register at any parish they so want. I do not care what the diocese of Pittsburgh says, a Canonist for that diocese does not trump Canon law. Also, even before the 83 code of Canon Law, there were personal use parishes that various mebers of ethnic groups were allowed to attend, hence the reason why many parishes 100 years ago were built within blocks of each other.
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Kielbasi:
If you’re permitted to do that, and I believe it since you said you are, its clearly an abuse. Canon Law addresses domiciles and quasidomiciles in regards to membership in the church. There isn’t a word about selecting your own parish based upon orthodoxy, or whether it meets your tastes. Of course, any Catholic can attend mass at any parish, but you’re supposed to belong to the parish in which you live.

diopitt.org/serves_tribunal_canon.php
 
Oh please, get real.
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Kielbasi:
As you should know, a parish is a geographical subdivision of a diocese. The church which serves the parish is something totally distinct.

A Catholic who lives within the borders of a parish is automatically a member of that parish.

So, if you want to be a member of a good (orthodox) parish you need to move into a parish that has a good (orthodox) parish church.

Maybe if the folks at realtor.com would let the folks use “parish” as a variable along with zip codes, number of bathrooms, and parking, it might help the people find an appropriate home in a parish of their liking.
 
As they say in Wales, Diolch yn fawr to all for your generous replies. As I said before, the search is not for me but my sister and her husband. I checked out St. Joseph’s in Shawnee on their web site and I agree, it looks great and it’s in my sister’s neighborhood.

Pob hwyl to all
 
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