Ustasha movement was Croatian, not Serbian.
but you are not going to tell us the name of the book the author, or cite the areas of concern. great. what kind of answer would you like. how about, I have been reading a lot about Pope Pius XII and his cause for canonization, and read about a lot of false accusations made against him, which grieve me, so would like more info. vague statement, vague question. and not a useful basis for discussion.
I apologize for mistakenly attributing the nationality of the Ustasha. It is sometimes difficult to find out how culpable the governments of the occupied lands during WWII were and how much they helped or hindered the Nazis.
This is especially so in formerly communist lands.
Of course, the Ustasha was an oppressive barbaric regime, I don’t think anyone would say otherwise.
Tito certainly did a great job at keeping the ancient feuds under control. That said, the show trials weren’t meant to antagonize Croatians so much as fascists, the communists themselves had Croatians in their ranks.
Yes, and no one will deny this evil. My problem is how this information is used, especially when its in the hands of nationalists. I like to participate on various Eastern European forums because of my own heritage, and this topic makes me cringe whenever I see it. I just thought that I should raise some of those concerns before anyone decides to go down that route.
I too would like to know the name of this book. The OP hasn’t bothered to produce the name of the book in either the first (most logical place) post or any subsequent posts either.
Im not attacking the pope I would just like to hear the catholic side. It has not been published because it is from a history professor (Orthodox) that I met at bible study at the local orthodox church, I’m not looking to attack so calm down, I dont know enough about history in that region so I would like more.
I’m Croatian, born and live in Croatia and I will be reading this topic with great interest. Please remember that Croatians are and were always Roman Catholics…after the great schism remained faithful to the Pope till today…What you said it’s true because it is hard to understand anything about this particular part of Europe without basic knowledge of the historical facts…before any futher discussion I suggest you give at least the name of the professor, if that is possible.
.maybe you can provide the name of the local orthodox church…Croatians belong to the Middle- European and Mediterranean cultural heritage with the strong connections to Rome throughout the centuries…Does this professor have a name or a university affiliation? If the book isn’t published, I can understand why he might not want his conclusions to come out before he finds a publisher, but has he published journal articles or other monographs that may have a bearing on this?
In another incarnation of this sub-forum many of us have witnessed first hand how the Ustasha were used as polemic by some parties in an indictment against the Catholic Church as a whole. As this isn’t relevent to Eastern Catholic Churches in particular, and not every Eastern Catholic would, by virtue of his or her affiliation be an expert or well versed in modern 20th century Eastern Euro secular history, we do get jumpy.Wow you guys are jumpy makes me think you are hiding something
My question is, what were you doing at a bible study at an Orthodox Church? :tsktsk: Your profile says “Catholic.” You do know that you are at least in a near occasion to sin if you haven’t already committed a sin.:crying: (I can’t judge as I wasn’t there, but you should know better.)
If there isn’t one near you, start one with the aid of your local priest or deacon.I go to the Orthodox because they always embrace the early church fathers when discussing scripture and how they understood it. Ideas are always approached from the basis of the Trinity and the Divine Lirturgy. I have also learned quite a bit of Greek besides “Kyrie Elison” just as a bonus.
The Orthodox are very much more integrated with the history of the church bringing it life. If you go to a Catholic bible study it is about as deep as children’s wading pool and they suggest you take a theology course if you are really interested. I already know that God loves me and what the scripture means to me. So I dont find a point in going to them. I know that this does not represent the whole catholic church but part of me thinks that there is something wrong with a church that does not want or believe that all it parishioners are worthy of a better understanding and I have had that experience at multiple parishes as has my father who hates the idea of me going to an orthodox church. 
.won’t happen again…sorry for my English mistakes:blush: , not my mother tongue and God bless you all