Lord's Day Celebration: Judaizing or not?

[Not_Sure_1]

My school’s Catholic group does a Lord’s day celebration which involves the breaking of bread and drinking of wine, several prayers, the lighting of a candle, on Saturday night before Sunday. Scripture is read, and bread and wine is blessed.

It is described as a Christianized celebration of the Jewish Sabbath (and was supposedly started my a Messianic Jew). I’ve heard one of the priests from Audio Sancto that this was Judaizing and a mortal sin against the first commandment (if done with knowledge and intent).

Is it true that this is Judaizing? They argue that since this is reverting to traditions and celebrations about the Messiah who is not here yet, that this is an act of faith against the fact that Christ has come.

Here’s the link:
audiosancto.org/sermon/20080928-Seder-Meals-Violate-the-1st-Commandment.html

umich.edu/~ucoum/resource/lordsday.html

 

[CB_Catholic]

I’m not sure if it is Judaizing or not, but it seems rather inappropriate for a Catholic group, who has the real thing in the Sacrifice of the Mass on the Lord’s Day, to be partaking in a quasi-celebration of it. What is the point of this celebration?

 

[CB_Catholic]

My school’s Catholic group does a Lord’s day celebration which involves the breaking of bread and drinking of wine, several prayers, the lighting of a candle, on Saturday night before Sunday. Scripture is read, and bread and wine is blessed.

It is described as a Christianized celebration of the Jewish Sabbath (and was supposedly started my a Messianic Jew). I’ve heard one of the priests from Audio Sancto that this was Judaizing and a mortal sin against the first commandment (if done with knowledge and intent).

Is it true that this is Judaizing? They argue that since this is reverting to traditions and celebrations about the Messiah who is not here yet, that this is an act of faith against the fact that Christ has come.

Here’s the link:
audiosancto.org/sermon/20080928-Seder-Meals-Violate-the-1st-Commandment.html

umich.edu/~ucoum/resource/lordsday.html

I think this is highly inappropriate for Catholics. We have a Lord’s Day celebration–the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass–the real thing. Since Messianic Jews do not have the Mass, it probably is appropriate for them to have such a celebration, but not for us. We are NOT Messianic Jews.

I don’t even like the idea of the Seder Meal our church has once a year on Holy Thursday. I never go. For one thing, it is not really a Jewish Seder, and I think it could offend Jewish people, like if they tried to imitate our Mass. If I want to go to a Seder, I have Jewish friends who I am sure would invite me as a guest observer.

 

[thewanderer]

My school’s Catholic group does a Lord’s day celebration which involves the breaking of bread and drinking of wine, several prayers, the lighting of a candle, on Saturday night before Sunday. Scripture is read, and bread and wine is blessed.

It is described as a Christianized celebration of the Jewish Sabbath (and was supposedly started my a Messianic Jew). I’ve heard one of the priests from Audio Sancto that this was Judaizing and a mortal sin against the first commandment (if done with knowledge and intent).

Is it true that this is Judaizing? **They argue that since this is reverting to traditions and celebrations about the Messiah who is not here yet, that this is an act of faith against the fact that Christ has come. **

Here’s the link:
audiosancto.org/sermon/20080928-Seder-Meals-Violate-the-1st-Commandment.html

umich.edu/~ucoum/resource/lordsday.html

We spend all of advent engaging in traditions and celebrations that are about the messiah who “is to come”. It is not because we are truly looking for the messiah to come, we realize that the Messiah has, of course, already come, but the traditions (advent wreath, Jesse Tree,Advent Songs like Oh Come Oh Come Emmanuel etc) are a remembrance and a reminder of the long wait that humanity had to wait for the Messiah to come. There is nothing wrong with engaging in traditions of this kind.

Now, having said that, if this particular celebration is actually about looking forward to the coming of the Messiah then that would be extremely problematic. There is also the question of whether or not it would offend Jews, it does seem possible that they would find it offensive, in which case it seems as though it would be both more prudent and more charitable to find a different way to commemmorate this part of salvation history.

 

[Holly3278]

If you are talking about the Seder meals that some parishes celebrate, I am not sure how to feel about them to be honest. I really don’t know much about them and so I don’t have much of an opinion on them. I do kind of lean against the practice of them though since we have Mass on Holy Thursday. But then again, if the Bishop thinks it is alright and the Magisterium thinks it is alright then who am I to disagree? They are far more wise than I.

 

[just_came_back]

“Messianic Jews” are not well thought of by the traditional Jewish communities and I wouldn’t imagine Catholics, Orthodox, etc think highly of their “traditions” as well.

Christ, to us, fulfilled the old covenant, rendering it meaningless and established God’s new covenant with man. Why try to hang onto the old? They, for the most part, are more evangelical in their worship and I still to this day cannot fathom the evangelicals OBSESSION with all things Israel as it pertains to Christianity?

No, I would NOT participate in this one iota. Just my 2 cents.