Lordship Salvation vs Free Grace

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Both pick verses in the Bible to give credit to their belief. I am wondering if it is really a big issue among Protestants.

Advocates for LS are David Platt, John Piper, C.J. Mahaney, Ligon Duncan, Mark Dever, Albert Mohler, Francis Chan, Tim Keller, and John MacArthur

Advocates for FG are L. S. Chafer, Lance Latham, J. Dwight Pentecost, John Walvoord, Charles Ryrie, Miles J. Stanford, Warren W. Wiersbe, Zane C. Hodges, Charles Stanley, Tony Evans, Ernest Pickering, Curtis Hutson, Bruce Wilkinson, Erwin Lutzer and Chip Ingram.

Just interested in finding out if this issue, if it is one, causes problems among Protestants.
 
aidanbradypop said:
lol

I know of a bible study that broke up because of this debate. Just wondering if it rings true in Protestantism a whole or just that bible study
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It was a good question; I lack the knowledge to participate but await answers sp I can learn more.

(Welcome back by the way; you were gone awhile. I missed reading your posts)
 
MaryT777 said:
It was a good question; I lack the knowledge to participate but await answers sp I can learn more.

(Welcome back by the way; you were gone awhile. I missed reading your posts)
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bathroom remodels just suck you in lol
 
Catholic_Dude said:
See this Catholic article:
Have you accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior?
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The blog article, while interesting, has a definite bias against all Protestants, naturally enough since it is written from a dogmatically Catholic viewpoint. The author makes tthat clear in epithets such as “pretend Reformation” in his overblown rhetoric such as “]tearing Evangelicalism apart daily” and in his very simplistic view of the root causes (i.e. more than one) of the Protestant Reformation. For example, he says nothing at all about the practices of indulgences and simony which were rampant in the Catholic Church in Martin Luther’s day.
 
Faithdancer said:
The blog article, while interesting, has a definite bias against all Protestants, naturally enough since it is written from a dogmatically Catholic viewpoint. The author makes tthat clear in epithets such as “pretend Reformation” in his overblown rhetoric such as "]tearing Evangelicalism apart daily
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" and in his very simplistic view of the root causes (i.e. more than one) of the Protestant Reformation. For example, he says nothing at all about the practices of indulgences and simony which were rampant in the Catholic Church in Martin Luther’s day.

Nick’s blog post is not the topic. He may be a little bias as I would assume a Protestant blog on Lordship Salvation or Free Grace Salvation would also be a bit bias. That is just how we work. 😉

The question is…does these views on salvation cause conflict among Protestants? Francis Chan is against Free Grace, yet Chip Ingram is against Lordship Salvation and yet both consider their beliefs to be Evangelical.
 
I know that my church is Lordship, and we recieve much grief from other independent baptist churches over this. There is much grief within Protestantism about the sovereignty of God, and Lordship Salvation (irresistable grace in TULIP) and free will to accept/deny. God, however, is sovereign in creation, providence, and redemption. Free will teaches that you can save yourself by accepting Christ. But the blood of Christ was for the people of God, whom he knew before the creation of the world. The elect cannot in the end deny God once the gospel has been presented to them because God is all-powerful and undeniable. Lordship Salvation teaches that a member of the elect can be spotted out, after recieving salvation, and is a new creation (2 Cor 5:17) with a new heart.
 
Fundamentalist1 said:
Free will teaches that you can save yourself by accepting Christ.
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That’s not what free will teaches.Part of free will teaching is that God, in his prevenient grace, softens the heart of man, awakening him to the reality of his sin and separation from God. It is only in response to this grace that anyone is able to place their faith in Christ. We cannot save ourselves by accepting Christ. It is only by God’s grace that we can ever say with our mouths and believe in our hearts that Jesus is Lord and he has risen to begin with.
 
It seems to me that Lordship Salvation is probably a lot closer to what the Bible teaches than Free Grace. Maybe I’m misinterpreting but I always saw Free Grace to imply a sort of antinomianism, which definitely ain’t biblical.
 
fallow_spirit said:
It seems to me that Lordship Salvation is probably a lot closer to what the Bible teaches than Free Grace. Maybe I’m misinterpreting but I always saw Free Grace to imply a sort of antinomianism, which definitely ain’t biblical.
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I think there is a difference between serious, thoughtful advocates of Free Grace theology and those who advocate “easy believism.”
 
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