Losing my Faith

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I can’t remember the last good thing to happen in my life. I pray and I pray and nothing happens. Every day that passes by is worse than the day before. Nothing changes. I’m depressed, broke, jobless and I can’t pay any of my bills. I don’t even know if I am going to make rent next month. I ask God for help and it seems like I get nothing. I have even started to not care if I miss church and not go to confession. I don’t even ask for a lot when I pray. I just ask for peace of mind and I can’t even get that. What is the point in praying to a God when nothing good comes out of it.
 
keep praying, but this time pray for trust, pray in trust, trust in God and ask that he help you conform to his will in all things. Pray the Our Father slowly, concentrating on each word. Pray before the Blessed Sacrament or before a crucifix if that is not possible and think about what Jesus suffered for us, and offer your own sufferings to him. Even picture in your mind your hurts wrapped in a bundle actually placed on the Cross. Jesus, I trust in You.
 
Dear Mick

I don’t want to sound trite but even with all of your difficulties, there is some good in your life. Firstly, you awake each morning - that is a blessing in itself. You have and used the opportunity to get on the internet and reach out to people here on CAF - that isn’t by chance. You asked God for help and you need to believe that He will answer - He always does, but sometimes not in the way we want or recognise.

Don’t give up on Him, Mick. As strange as it may sound, thank Him for this desert experience you are going through and ask Him to help you to continue believing in and trusting Him. There is something good in this experience for you. He knows what you need and He wants you to trust in His ability and willingness to provide for you. “Give us this day our daily bread”. Plead with Him, talk to Him. Tell Him how you are feeling and ask Him to provide for your needs believing that He will. (feel free to tell Him that it is hard to believe but you WANT to and to help increase your faith in Him).

I will be praying for you, to Mick and trusting on your behalf. I KNOW that something good will come out of this. Don’t give up - go to Mass always, the Eucharist really does give us the strength to face our difficulties.
 
I can’t remember the last good thing to happen in my life. I pray and I pray and nothing happens. Every day that passes by is worse than the day before. Nothing changes. I’m depressed, broke, jobless and I can’t pay any of my bills. I don’t even know if I am going to make rent next month. I ask God for help and it seems like I get nothing. I have even started to not care if I miss church and not go to confession. I don’t even ask for a lot when I pray. I just ask for peace of mind and I can’t even get that. What is the point in praying to a God when nothing good comes out of it.
God may be asking you to let go and give yourself up to Him completely. Let him “drive” for a while. 🙂 God always answers our prayers. Always. It’s just that sometimes the answer isn’t “Yes.” Sometimes, it’s “No” or “Not right now.” Keep praying, though. Keep knocking on the door. But always pray that whatever you’re asking for, that you only want it IF it be God’s will. Otherwise, God’s will be done in the matter. He sees the future as you and I see the present, so He knows how everything is going to turn out for you. Every little detail.

So, stop worrying, and be not afraid. (Yeah, I know, easier said than done. But a good goal.) 🙂

Sometimes God builds our faith up by allowing us to go through trials. He tests our faith, too, to see if we will remain faithful if things don’t go our way. Hang in there! Trust in the Lord. And give your life and everything to Him. Place yourself in His hands.
 
I understand, and I am sorry you feel this way. And all the trite “hang in theres” can be painful, I know. But that might just be what faith is, taking the next step when you don’t know what lies beyond.

Continue to pray- if it that only means doing what has to be done in the next moment. That can be an act of faith. Baby steps.

And, if I might, spend some time outside each day. Like “hang in there,” there is a reason you see that tip everywhere.

I’ll be doing the same thing:thumbsup:
 
The Lord is all we have.
In Him we trust.
In Him we hope.

Please do not lose hope ; do not lose Faith.
Without Faith, what else is there ?
Nothing!
Pray unceasingly. God answers all prayers at His own time.
 
Many of the above comments are excellent advice.

When I was most depressed about life, I started a daily reflective discipline at the end of the day. I wrote five “gratitudes” in my journal - events, people, and things in my life that I felt thankful for - or if I didn’t “feel” grateful, I at least recognized as something worth acknowledging. This is hard when you’re depressed, but give it a try. You can even try to put a positive spin on not-so-pleasant things. See how you feel afterward. Try it for 30 days in a row. This is not a huge investment of time, energy, or talent. I think we can all be richly rewarded by this practice.

I can probably think of five things that started my day that I’m thankful for.
  1. Today, I’m thankful for Catholic Answers Forums - I am connected to fellow believers everyday in prayer and discussion.
  2. Today, I’m thankful for my long to-do list. God has called me worthy to work and serve others.
  3. Today, I’m grateful for the faulty electricity in my bathroom. Most would call this an inconvenience, but I think it’s a reminder that I need to maintain and service my entire apartment. My apartment will be in better shape at the end of the week if I am responsible about this.
  4. Today, I’m grateful for my huge pile of student loan debt. What? Thankful for debt? Yes. I am becoming more mindful about how I manage my money, however little there is. My debts also remind me of the fantastic education I have.
  5. Today, I’m grateful for the coming rain. I can use my red-and-white umbrella!
What do you think? Prayers for you -
 
I can’t remember the last good thing to happen in my life. I pray and I pray and nothing happens. Every day that passes by is worse than the day before. Nothing changes. I’m depressed, broke, jobless and I can’t pay any of my bills. I don’t even know if I am going to make rent next month. I ask God for help and it seems like I get nothing. I have even started to not care if I miss church and not go to confession. I don’t even ask for a lot when I pray. I just ask for peace of mind and I can’t even get that. What is the point in praying to a God when nothing good comes out of it.
Your message really touched me. I feel your pain truly. And the truth of the matter is that you are not going through anything that millions, if not billions, of other people are gong through right now. That isn’t meant to take away the intimate and personal struggle that you are going through - it is only meant to reaffirm you in your connection to the rest of us. We all pray, we all trust that God has our best interest, and we all suffer. How about that?

My definition of suffering is; suffering is what happens when things are not going as they ought to be according to you. When things just aren’t going your way and you are upset by it, that’s suffering. Suffering is what happens when you desire things to be one way, but reality tells you that they are another and you refuse to embrace it. I don’t mean to make suffering sound artificial. On the contrary, I believe that is only through reconciling our desires with reality that we can see God, because God is reality; and when we desire something that is not based on reality, we desire something less than God. In fact, the object of the spiritual life is to become one with Him who is reality, and that is the only way to become a real person

All I can offer is my prayers and my hope that you embrace the reality of the moment and trust that God is going to somehow bring you through it. He MAY NOT take you out of it, but I promise you that he is RIGHT THERE WITH YOU in the midst of it. He is going through it WITH YOU. That is how much He loves you that He is right there in your mess with you and has something better prepared for you if you take the time to embrace the right now and discern where He is leading you.

Please email me if you want to talk more. Jesus Loves You. He is there for you!
 
Thank you all for the replies and prayers. They mean a lot to me. I am going through a rough patch in my life and I appreciate the support. Again thank you all and God bless you.
 
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Michael Novak

Dark Night of the Soul is not an easy book to read. For one thing, it relies heavily upon the experience of the reader. It is intended to show the voyager of the spirit the ways through the night and the desert. How can anyone who has not known the night and desert recognize the symptoms and the signs? This is not a book for reading, but for experiencing.

Perhaps its main point may be expressed thus: Go, seek with love your Beloved, follow wherever He leads. Yet even when you come up to Him you must anticipate that there will be no one to be seen. Your faculties are simply inadequate. Were you actually to see, you would be destroyed. It is too much. Your bulbs would short out. Be prepared, therefore, to walk in darkness Not at all in doubt; on the contrary for the first time ever, aware that you are not now following illusions, but only the true darkling light of the true God, beyond human range. Anything else is human contrivance and illusion.

I came to learn that, while one can come to know that God is present, our minds are unable to form an adequate conception of Him, or to grasp Him with any of our five senses, or to imagine Him. His mode of drawing us into His presence is necessarily by way of absence, silence, nothingness. I remember an image fixed in my mind by the poetry of Saint John of the Cross, mentioned earlier: “The place where he . . . was awaiting me — A place where none appeared.”

It must necessarily be so. The true God is beyond human concepts, senses, imagination, memory. On those frequencies, He is not reachable. Mother Teresa of Calcutta acknowledged her inability to reach God on human wavelengths in a 1979 letter to one of her spiritual directors, the Reverend Michael Van Der Peet:

“Jesus has a very special love for you. [But] as for me — the silence and the emptiness is so great — that I look and do not see — listen and do not hear”

If a Christian has not yet known this darkness and aridity, it is a sign that the Lord is still treating him like a child at the breast, too unformed for the adult darkness in which alone the true God is found. Any who think they can make idols, or images, or pictures, or concepts of God remain underdeveloped in their faith. Darkness is not a sign of unbelief, or even of doubt, but a sign of the true relation between the Creator and the creature. God is not on our frequency; and when we get beyond our usual range, which in prayer we must, we reach only darkness. This is painful. In a way, it does make one doubt; in another way, experience shows us that when one is no longer a child, one leaves childish ways behind.

Our intellects, our will — these can reach out to God, like arrows of inquiry shot up into the infinite night. These are not shot in vain. They mark out a direction. Waiting in silence, in abandonment, even in the dry sands of the desert, one comes to know His presence. Not believe in it. Know it. In a 1959 interview with the BBC, C. G. Jung once made the same point. Asked whether he believed in God, Jung replied, “I don’t believe — I know.” This is a dark knowledge. One cannot expect anyone else to know it, unless they have also walked the rocky and darkling path — or somehow by God’s grace been brought to it by a different journey, along a different route.

I do not mean that this knowledge consists of warm sentiments, feelings of devotion, uplift, and “faith.” I mean a certain quiet emptiness. A dark resonance of wills. Echo to echo.

Mother Teresa wrote of her own emptiness in 1961: “I accept not in my feelings — but with my will, the Will of God — I accept His will.”

This is not a “will” characterized by effort, unrelenting desire, unshakable determination. I mean something almost the opposite: the quiet of abandonment, and trust. This is another mode of will, quite different from the striving will. It is. the willingness to forgo any other reinforcement except the blind and dark love we direct toward that infinite Light, on which we cannot set our eyes.

Nor do I mean a turning away from intellect or rationality On the contrary, I mean taking these with utter seriousness “all the way down” to the very roots of the universe. I mean trusting our own rationality our own intellect. I mean serene confidence in infinite Light, even when our senses go quite dark. Trust the light, the evidence-demanding eros of inquiry, within us. I mean the suffering love in which that Light issues forth among us. Not to, remove us from suffering. But to transfigure us by means of it.
Michael Novak, No One Sees God

More selections from Novak’s book here

payingattentiontothesky.com/2010/09/08/no-one-sees-god-%e2%80%93-michael-novak/

Hope it gives you some solace. You are not alone. Gaining faith can be part of the process of losing it.

dj
 
I can’t remember the last good thing to happen in my life. I pray and I pray and nothing happens. Every day that passes by is worse than the day before. Nothing changes. I’m depressed, broke, jobless and I can’t pay any of my bills. I don’t even know if I am going to make rent next month. I ask God for help and it seems like I get nothing. I have even started to not care if I miss church and not go to confession. I don’t even ask for a lot when I pray. I just ask for peace of mind and I can’t even get that. What is the point in praying to a God when nothing good comes out of it.
I find myself losing faith when things turn for the worse in my life. I usually turn away from God when that happens instead of tuning to Him. I have a job that barely pays for rent and nothing else but yet I’m able to pay for that and eat everyday. Life’s hard but I don’t believe it’s suppose to be easy. For me faith is all have despite all my doubts and fears. Mother Teresa struggled with her faith and often wondered if there really was a God but she kept striving nontheless. Don’t give up. Keep praying and I’ll keep you in my prayers.
 
More selections from Novak’s book here

payingattentiontothesky.com/2010/09/08/no-one-sees-god-%e2%80%93-michael-novak/

Hope it gives you some solace. You are not alone. Gaining faith can be part of the process of losing it.

dj
Thank you for this post! I have sorely been tempted by atheism recently but by the merciful Grace of God I have kept the faith. After the ‘honeymoon’ of conversion the Dark Night awaits, indeed… but there is peace and joy in it if one abandons oneself totally to Christ. He is the only Way, there is no other hope, not Buddha, not Mohammed, not Krishna or Rama or Zarathustra, or any other.

John 6:68
 
Dear Jesus, please help us all to say “Lord, I believe, help my unbelief” and continue to trust in You and your real love for us, even when so much in our life seems to scream that we are alone. Help us to know unshakeably that when we are suffering, You are there with us and that if we persevere, loving You all the same, we will receive what is best for us.

Amen.
 
i feel the same. I am asking Jesus to help me have real friends but it got worse and i am even losing my friends …

I also wanted to make friends but i ususally fail… I do no understand but, the way i love a friend , i love them forever , its just that my friends are unable to comprehend with that… if they just realize how i truly love my friends… and now, i am losing every single one of them…
I feel like… i dont know…then people start to hate me … i do not know now …
I know these are all the consequences of sins , however… it pains me so much that i makes me want to fall to the ground and i dont know what to do anymore … why does He have to do this to me…
 
Hi Mick. I’ve not seen any news from you in awhile so I thought it about time to check in on you. How are things going now? You remain in my prayers and I hope you continue to trust in God through this very difficult time you’re facing.

ToJesuswithMary, I’m sorry you’ve been having such a rough time on the friendship front. I don’t know all the dynamics of your situation but could it be that the way you express this strong, “forever love” for your friends makes them uncomfortable? Too much contact and too much intensity can be off-putting at times. Just a thought - I repeat, I don’t know exactly what has been going on.

I do know, however that Jesus is not picking on you. It could be that the people you consider friends really are not the right people to be in your life right now and their leaving is actually a blessing. Perhaps what you should be asking Jesus right now is for you to love Him even more and to learn to be more detached from people.

He does want you to have friends but perhaps he wants you to want Him and love Him more than you want and love other friends. Perhaps so much of your intensity has been going towards others that He’s trying to remind you where your priority lies.

I can tell you that a person who is in love with Jesus and is working on being the best person he can be and with a positive attitude, is very attractive to similar people. We all want the right kind of friends, don’t we?

:grouphug: Both you and Mick are in my prayers.
 
Jesus never promised that he would take away all of our problems, but that he would give us the strength to deal with them. It sounds like God is calling you to a higher level of obedience and abandonment to his will, and the devil is working overtime to tempt you as well. It sounds rough, to be sure. Have you spoken with a priest, or do you have an advisor?
 
The last poster asks a good question. Have you spoken with a priest or a spiritual advisor/director? I strongly recommend you do. You’ll find support and spiritual help during this difficult time and will grow stronger and deeper in faith with the help of a good, holy spiritual director. Trust in God…pray for trust if you need more…and persevere. Also, meet with a priest.
 
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