LOTH, Breviary, Christian Prayer, or Little Office?

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The only addition I’m going to offer to this thread is the consideration that the LOTH is a public prayer (meaning it is prayed in union with the Universal Church, like the Mass), while other prayers are private devotions (i.e., not prayed in union with the Universal Church). Just something to consider.
 
Another question! Is the divineoffice.org the same as the LOTH readings? If so, I can save the money and use that. Alternatively, where would I find the complete LOTH online?
 
Dryfly said:
Another question! Is the divineoffice.org the same as the LOTH readings?
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Yes, it is. Another option is iBreviary, which also happens to have a **free **app, if you’re into that modern stuff. With iBreviary, unlike Divine Office, you can actually choose different days, too, if, for some reason, you want that option. I happen to like options. 🙂

Using such websites is a great idea, because, as I stated above, it will give you an idea of what the office looks like, all in one place, without having to flip between a few sections of a book. Definitely give that a shot. 👍
 
otjm said:
  1. one can also use the small magazine “Magnificat”, which has a number of other things; it may be a bit weak on the LOTH, but it provides a starting place, with weekday Masses and some spiritual reading.
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I’ve used the Book of Christian Prayer, and Magnificat.

At this point in my life, I find Magnificat to be most useful. In addition the Mass readings, and a shortened version of the canticles and psalms from the LOTH, there are reflections and meditations which I find to be EXTREMELY helpful to me. Sometimes there may just be a sentence or two. Sometimes there is a full page or two. I highly recommend Magnificat.
 
drforjc said:
Christian Prayer has a truncated version of the Office of Readings, and I’m not 100% certain about Daytime Prayer.

The problem with Shorter Christian Prayer is that is so truncated that it includes almost none of the feasts and memorials of the Saints. You would need at least Christian Prayer for that.
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Hmm, didn’t know this. I was actually looking into getting Shorter Christian Prayer since I really only pray Morning and Evening prayer (and sometimes the Office of Readings). Disappointed to hear it’s not complete since I actually want to pray with the Church.

Does anyone know by any chance where I can get a single volume of the Office of Readings? Or do I have to buy the actual four volume to get the complete readings throughout the year?
 
mikee said:
Hmm, didn’t know this. I was actually looking into getting Shorter Christian Prayer since I really only pray Morning and Evening prayer (and sometimes the Office of Readings). Disappointed to hear it’s not complete since I actually want to pray with the Church.

Does anyone know by any chance where I can get a single volume of the Office of Readings? Or do I have to buy the actual four volume to get the complete readings throughout the year?
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The only single volume Office of Readings available was by the Daughters of St. Paul, and it’s out-of-print. You occasionally find it on Ebay, but be prepared to pay a hefty price. (Oh, and the Daughters of St. Paul edition of Christian Prayer has a MUCH better layout than CBP’s version.)

Don’t bother with Shorter Christian Prayer – go ahead and get the one-volume, and do the Office of Readings from www.divineoffice.com. The problem with Shorter is that there is only one week of offices given for Advent and Lent, and you’ll go stark raving crazy repeating them over and over again. I did it one Advent, and took my Christmas money and bought Christian Prayer for Lent.
 
Still a bit confused as divineoffice.org and ibreviary and both different.
I like the style of the ibreviary but fear it’s not accurate?

What am I missing here? Shouldn’t they be the same even if the translations are different?

Thanks again everyone. I appreciate the the help.
 
Dryfly said:
Still a bit confused as divineoffice.org and ibreviary and both different.
I like the style of the ibreviary, but fear it’s not accurate?

What am I missing here? Shouldn’t they be the same even if the translations are different?

Thanks again everyone. I appreciate the the help.
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Dryfly said:
Still a bit confused as divineoffice.org and ibreviary and both different.
I like the style of the ibreviary but fear it’s not accurate?

What am I missing here? Shouldn’t they be the same even if the translations are different?

Thanks again everyone. I appreciate the the help.
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It looks to me like the ibreviary app (for Android at least) and the divineoffice.org site have the same translations.

The ibreviary app also includes daily Mass readings.
 
As someone who was baptised into the Church at this year’s Easter Vigil, I found Liturgy Of The Hours very daunting! I started out with Shorter Christian Prayer and, Lord forgive me, I got bored after a while but this was due to lack of understanding. I bought a copy of the Shorter Christian Prayer and then The School Of Prayer: an introduction to the Divine Office. This gem of a book greatly assisted me in understanding about the Divine Office (as we call it in the UK)

I pray Morning, Evening and Night Prayer and ready to try prayer during the day so I bought a very rare copy of Daily Prayer from the Divine Office from eBay (it’s an expensive book). I strongly recommend Shorter Christian Prayer and The School Of Prayer to start off with. I also recommend starting with Night Prayer for a bit. I’m a book lover as opposed to apps hehe.

God bless you in your journey into the Liturgy of the hours!! (I have attached my breviary and my other LOTH books for your reference)
 
Discerning whether I should buy LO of the BVM as I already have Shorter Christian Prayer? I’m not exactly sure how I would use both books together. I’m just wanting to deepen my devotion to Our Lady.
 
ZellieFan said:
Discerning whether I should buy LO of the BVM as I already have Shorter Christian Prayer? I’m not exactly sure how I would use both books together. I’m just wanting to deepen my devotion to Our Lady.
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Well, they aren’t meant to be used together. Some Orders pray both the Little Office and the LOTH, but that’s because they make the time to do so – most lay folk don’t have the time.

Which version of the Little Office are you considering? The modern one (edited by Rotelle) doesn’t have the traditional prayers. The Baronius is ok, but the Latin translations have some mistakes. I have the one edited by Lelen, from 1944, because the English flows better.

I’m not fond of Shorter Christian Prayer, if you wish to go into the LOTH in greater depth, I recommend the Daughters of St. Paul one volume edition of Christian Prayer. While it is out of print, used copies are often available on Ebay and at Amazon.
 
Magdalen2013 said:
Well, they aren’t meant to be used together. Some Orders pray both the Little Office and the LOTH, but that’s because they make the time to do so – most lay folk don’t have the time.

Which version of the Little Office are you considering? The modern one (edited by Rotelle) doesn’t have the traditional prayers. The Baronius is ok, but the Latin translations have some mistakes. I have the one edited by Lelen, from 1944, because the English flows better.

I’m not fond of Shorter Christian Prayer, if you wish to go into the LOTH in greater depth, I recommend the Daughters of St. Paul one volume edition of Christian Prayer. While it is out of print, used copies are often available on Ebay and at Amazon.
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This is a lot more complicated than I anticipated!

I was considering the modern Rotelle version because it’s simple. I don’t know the one by Lelen. . .will look into it. There are so many!

SCP is just right for me because of my life and schedule. The compactness of the book also makes it very portable. However I will check out the Daughters of St. Paul version for comparison.
 
ZellieFan said:
This is a lot more complicated than I anticipated!

I was considering the modern Rotelle version because it’s simple. I don’t know the one by Lelen. . .will look into it. There are so many!

SCP is just right for me because of my life and schedule. The compactness of the book also makes it very portable. However I will check out the Daughters of St. Paul version for comparison.
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The Rotelle IS simple, but it’s not the traditional Little Office – he took bits and pieces of the Marian feasts in the LOTH and patched them together.

Here are some inexpensive traditional versions:

amazon.com/Little-Office-Blessed-Virgin-Mary/dp/193784319X/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1446769626&sr=1-4&keywords=little+office+of+the+blessed+virgin+mary

amazon.com/Little-Office-Blessed-Virgin-cover/dp/1304516369/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1446769626&sr=1-5&keywords=little+office+of+the+blessed+virgin+mary

The first one is $20 and the second, in paperback, is $12 – the bonus with the first one is that it also has the Office for the Dead.

The Little Office is much easier than SCP. These I’ve given info on are similar to the Lelen, but won’t cost as much.
 
Magdalen2013 said:
The Rotelle IS simple, but it’s not the traditional Little Office – he took bits and pieces of the Marian feasts in the LOTH and patched them together.

Here are some inexpensive traditional versions:

amazon.com/Little-Office-Blessed-Virgin-Mary/dp/193784319X/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1446769626&sr=1-4&keywords=little+office+of+the+blessed+virgin+mary

amazon.com/Little-Office-Blessed-Virgin-cover/dp/1304516369/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1446769626&sr=1-5&keywords=little+office+of+the+blessed+virgin+mary

The first one is $20 and the second, in paperback, is $12 – the bonus with the first one is that it also has the Office for the Dead.

The Little Office is much easier than SCP. These I’ve given info on are similar to the Lelen, but won’t cost as much.
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I may go with the first link…I wish I could see inside. The language of the second link doesn’t flow well for me. I think it’s beautiful but I’m not sure how it would be to pray with that language. I also don’t like that it’s paperback. Thank you again!
 
I have a copy of the paperback, it’s OK – but I think you’ll find the language in the Angelus Press version flows better.

I’m ordering a copy of the Angelus Press version as well – the last time I looked it was out-of-print, so I’m glad to see they’ve reprinted it!

(I am a prayerbook addict…)
 
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