LOTH (christian Prayer) Question [edited]

[musicmantg11]

I currently use the Christian Prayer Book (1976 Catholic Book Publishing, Co. Edition). Can someone please give me the page number which the “Te Deum” is found in this book?

Sorry for this stupid question!

 

[The_Prodigal]

I have never come across it in the bound text. It can be found on the last page of insert 1 “Common texts.”

 

[Tantum_ergo]

Well, I have the 1976 one volume Christian Prayer: The Liturgy of the Hours (Daughters of St. Paul). . .and the Te Deum is on page 536. Does that help?

 

[tee_eff_em]

I don’t know what up (as the young people say) with the CBP books.

As noted, their *Christian Prayer *does not include the Te Deum * in the bound text. I also have a companion supplement of proper offices for Franciscan Saints and Blesseds, also printed by CBP, which distinguishes its page numbers by adding an asterisk. On Solemnities, at the end of the Office of Readings, it indicates: "HYMN, Te Deum, 442"

Guess what is on page 442*?

It is BLANK. :hypno:


tee

 

[bpbasilphx]

Since in the present LotH, Te Deum is only said at the Office of Readings, it’s not likely to be included in Christian Prayer.

 

[The_Prodigal]

Well, Christian Prayer does include the (simplified) Office of Readings, and in the “Celebration of the Hours” section it does indicate that the Te Deum needs to be said “if prescribed.”

However, as far as I can tell, the rubrics for the Office in this book never “prescibe” it at all!

I continue to search for the responsories for the Office of Readings, as well. I think they were omitted from Christian Prayer completely.

 

[tee_eff_em]

Well, Christian Prayer does include the (simplified) Office of Readings, and in the “Celebration of the Hours” section it does indicate that the Te Deum needs to be said “if prescribed.”

However, as far as I can tell, the rubrics for the Office in this book never “prescibe” it at all!

The [unabridged] General Instruction of the Liturgy of the Hours:
68. On Sundays outside Lent, on days within the octaves of Easter and Christmas, and on solemnities and feasts the Te Deum is said after the second reading with its responsory but is omitted on memorials and weekdays. The last part of this hymn, that is, from the verse, *Save your people, Lord *to the end, may be omitted.
BTW: I believe *Christian Prayer *terms this section “Selections” rather than “simplified”.

I continue to search for the responsories for the Office of Readings, as well. I think they were omitted from Christian Prayer completely.

Concur – The responsories are not included in the CBP edition (they are included in the DoSP).

tee

 

[ncjohn]

I have the DoSP version also and have not really figured out when one actually uses the Office of Readings–or if there is a place where we’re supposed to. The explanation is pretty unclear to me. Since I’m relatively new to the whole LOTH thing though maybe it’s just a gap in my general knowledge.

 

[tee_eff_em]

I have the DoSP version also and have not really figured out when one actually uses the Office of Readings–or if there is a place where we’re supposed to. The explanation is pretty unclear to me. Since I’m relatively new to the whole LOTH thing though maybe it’s just a gap in my general knowledge.

The Office of Readings is not fixed in time. The GILOH #59 notes:
[T]the office of readings may be recited at any hour of the day, even during the night hours of the previous day, after evening prayer has been said.

tee

 

[ncjohn]

Great, thanks tee! I feel just a little less stupid now, though I’m sure something else will crop up to restore that.