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PEACE
Pax.
5 For there is only one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity—the man Christ Jesus. 6 He gave his life to purchase freedom for everyone. This is the message God gave to the world at just the right time. 7 And I have been chosen as a preacher and apostle to teach the Gentiles this message about faith and truth. I’m not exaggerating—just telling the truth.
This is talking about “reconcilliation”, not intercessory prayer.
In fact, intercessory prayer actually pleases God and it’s in the same passage from which you chose those particular verses:
1 Timothy 2
1 I exhort therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, thanksgivings, be made for all men;
2 for kings and all that are in high place; that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and gravity.
3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth.
No one ever prays to Mary for reconcilliation between them and God (which is the subject of the verses you chose).
John 3:16 doesn’t seem to mention Mary.
What would Mary have to do with John 3:16 in the first place?
John 3:16 only talks about God, not Mary.
This however doesn’t mean that Mary “didn’t” give up her only begotten Son as well and it doesn’t state that she “didn’t” give up her only begotten Son.
Mary isn’t mentioned in a lot of passages.
But she was mentioned in two important passages…she was there before Jesus birth and was there at His death.
But GOD knew that she wouldn’t.
Because she was full of grace. She was perfect therefore, she could perfectly obey God without question. Her blessedness is compared to Jesus’ level of blessedness.
When told that Mary would conceive a child her reply was
Luke 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? (Meaning I have not had sexual relations.) Right in the beginning of Matthew 1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25 And knew her not (had sexual relations) till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife (had sexual relations); and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Genesis 4:17 And Cain knew his wife (had sexual relations); and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Genesis 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again (had sexual relations again); and she bare a son, and called his name Seth.
No where there does it say that Mary and Joseph had sex. It states that Joseph didn’t touch Mary up until she gave birth, but doesn’t say that they had sex afterwards.
Not only that, the Bible doesn’t even say that they actually got married (only that they were engaged).
So sex wouldn’t have been manadatory between the two.
That is “if” we’re going only by what is actually written in The Bible.
Kind of a recurring theme here. Why is it so bad that she had more children?? It doesn’t lower my opinion of her. I’ve seen all the arguments on the language used and what the till means but I don’t buy it so don’t waste typing. Not being sarcastic just saving you time.
It wouldn’t be bad. It would even be proper (if there was proof that they were actually married).
But the fact is that no where in The Bible does it state that Jesus had brothers (the original aramaic language used the same word for both brother and cousin, plus, the mother of those mentioned as Jesus’ brothers were literally told by scripture as Mary’s relative (sister). She was named as the mother of those that were called Jesus’ brothers.
I do have a high regard for Peter. He died proclaiming the Gospel of our Lord and Savior. I think his name is mentioned so much because he liked to talk. He obviously was type A probably like you
Of course Catholics use this as one of their arguments for Peter’s primacy. His name is mentioned so much and always first as Catholics say. If Mary is mentioned the least, “yikes” how do you argue that??
Simple, Peter’s Primacy (for me) isn’t proven by how many times he’s mentioned. I’m sure the word “the” is mentioned thousands of times in the Bible.
No, Jesus told Peter to literally shepard His followers and in Matthew 16:18, told him that He’d build His Church upon Peter (literally “rock”).
Again interesting how the argument applies for Peter’s name not Mary. Nothing to do with Protestant exclusionism. Everything to do with Catholic counting techniques.
Again, not for me or for any legitimate Catholic Apologist.
All one has to do is to read the Bible and see that Peter is always mentioned first when Church business is being done.
The fact that Peter is mentioned more than all the other Apostles is a way to counter Protestant’s beliefs that Peter wasn’t special of The Apostles, that Paul was more important (which kind of undoes what Jesus did in John 21).
scripturecatholic.com/primacy_of_peter.html
He also calls anyone who obeys GOD blessed. So are you blessed (insert name), and I’m blessed (my name)? Correct??
No one is calles as blessed as Jesus, but Mary. Only Mary is compared to Jesus when called blessed.
I don’t think he would ever dishonor his Mom.
PEACE BROTHER. Now Make me laugh
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