LSD experience oriented dynamic heart burn or truth???

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I suggest you go back and read my OP, it gives quotes from her book where she teaches distinctly mormon doctrines.

My whole point in bringing her up is to point out that her mormon background may have fudged her interpretations of her NDE.

But, the primary purpose of this thread is to encourage my Catholic Brothern to share their testimony.
 
My whole point in bringing her up is to point out that her mormon background may have fudged her interpretations of her NDE.
She was also influenced by the Catholic nuns where she went to school but you have no criticism for any of her Catholic beliefs. Wasn’t there something in the Sermon on the mount about “Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you”?

I’m all for Catholics bearing their testimony. I’d like to see more of it too.
 
LSD? hTanks m’l ydslectic nad htat oloks irght ot em.🙂 Didn’t Paul have a similar extra normal experience when he reported going to the 3rd heaven

Paul
 
Wasn’t there something in the Sermon on the mount about “Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you”?
Ah, I am not catholic. So, if you see her teaching catholic theology in her book kindly point out the quote with the page number.

thanks
Daniel

P.S. I don’t know of any catholics who are using her book as bearing testimony to catholic church.

“Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you”

that sounds like a misquote and a mis-application because it is not in the sermon on the mount.

The text I think you are mis-applying is Mark 4:24 which is a summary of the parable of the talents. In context, Jesus is telling us to make our light, that is our testimony known to a lost world. In short, Jesus is talking about using our talents. To the person, who’s conversation ( which means more than simple listening ) hides the gospel from others, that will be taken away from them. To the person who’s conversation, matter of walk employs the talents that God has given him, more graces from God will be given to him.

Mark 4:21-25 (New Life Version)

21 He said to them, “Is a lamp to be put under a pail or under a bed? Should it not be put on a lamp-stand? 22 Everything that is hidden will be brought into the light. Everything that is a secret will be made known. 23 You have ears, then listen!”
24 Jesus said to them, **“Be careful what you listen to. The same amount you give will be given to you, and even more. 25 He who has, to him will be given. To him who does not have, even the little he has will be taken from him.” **

Matthew 25:14-30 (New International Version)

14"Again, it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted his property to them. 15To one he gave five talents[a] of money, to another two talents, and to another one talent, each according to his ability. Then he went on his journey. 16The man who had received the five talents went at once and put his money to work and gained five more. 17So also, the one with the two talents gained two more. 18But the man who had received the one talent went off, dug a hole in the ground and hid his master’s money.
19"After a long time the master of those servants returned and settled accounts with them. 20The man who had received the five talents brought the other five. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you entrusted me with five talents. See, I have gained five more.’

21"His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’

22"The man with the two talents also came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you entrusted me with two talents; see, I have gained two more.’

23"His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’

24"Then the man who had received the one talent came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘I knew that you are a hard man, harvesting where you have not sown and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25So I was afraid and went out and hid your talent in the ground. See, here is what belongs to you.’

26"His master replied, 'You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed? 27Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest.
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28" ‘Take the talent from him and give it to the one who has the ten talents. 29For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. 30And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’**

Most likely, you are thinking of Matthew 7:2

Matthew 7 (Contemporary English Version)
1Don’t condemn others, and God won’t condemn you. 2God will be as hard on you as you are on others! He will treat you exactly as you treat them.

And, frankly in reference to the false theology of mormonism, and in reference to the false doctrines of edie, I am following the judgement of the apostles themselves,

2 Corinthians 4:4

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Galatians 1:6-8

6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
 
The apostles have this to say about the false prophets of mormonism,

2 Corinthians 4:4

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Galatians 1:6-8

6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 (New International Version)

13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

I have no doubt that Joseph Smith and B. Young are in the wicked side of the grave today.

Like it or not, my judgement is in line with that of the apostles themselves.

😉

The greek word anathema in Gal 1 above means false teachers like Joseph Smith are under a divine curse and are destined for the lake of fire, aka eternal punishment. Smith can not save you, nor can he promote you to a higher level of heaven because simply put, he is not going to heaven himself.
 
I have no doubt that Joseph Smith and B. Young are in the wicked side of the grave today.

Like it or not, my judgement is in line with that of the apostles themselves.

The greek word anathema in Gal 1 above means false teachers like Joseph Smith are under a divine curse and are destined for the lake of fire, aka eternal punishment. Smith can not save you, nor can he promote you to a higher level of heaven because simply put, he is not going to heaven himself.
Again, I must repeat, “Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you”
 
Agian you took Mark 4 out of context, go read my above post.

You can misquote scripture all day if you want, your misapplication of scripture is not going to impress me just as Satan’s misapplications did not impress Jesus at his temptation.
 
The apostles have this to say about the false prophets of mormonism,

Galatians 1:6-8

6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
I think you are using this passage to do you theological bidding, However, if I’m wrong perhaps you could explain a bit of your thinking here. What do you think was the inspiration behind this statement, who do you think he was referencing here as the others that teach differently, and what was it, in your opinion, that they were teaching? With this information I can glean some understanding as to why you would apply these verses as proof text for LDS to be on the “wicked side” Thanks

Paul
 
Hi Paul, Joseph Smith recieved his intinal revelation from an angel, and the gospel that JS taught is clearly contray to the teachings of the apostles, thus he falls under the judgement that Paul pronounced.

Isaiah 43:10
 
Hi Paul, Joseph Smith recieved his intinal revelation from an angel, and the gospel that JS taught is clearly contray to the teachings of the apostles, thus he falls under the judgement that Paul pronounced.

Isaiah 43:10
Hi Daniel, yes I understand what you are saying, however the questions I asked are related to the “other gospel” In Gal 1. Perhaps we could discuss this first then move on to 2Cor. Thanks

Paul
 
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