Luke 11:1-13

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It was explained to me that the story of persistent prayer found in Luke 11:1-13 was translated from the Greek into Latin incorrectly. Instead of the man getting up and providing bread to his neighbor because of the neighbor’s persistent knocking, it was explained to me that the man provided bread out of shame. The Greek word for “shame”, because it would go against his cultural grain to be inhospitable, and “persistence” is one letter different. I am told that this word was transcribed incorrectly. I trust my source but have not found this anywhere else. Is it true?
 
It wouldn’t make sense. Jesus told that parable to parallel his teaching on the Lord’s Prayer, where if one asks the Father will give.

If you asked, would God the Father give you something out of shame?
 
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It was explained to me that the story of persistent prayer found in Luke 11:1-13 was translated from the Greek into Latin incorrectly. Instead of the man getting up and providing bread to his neighbor because of the neighbor’s persistent knocking, it was explained to me that the man provided bread out of shame. The Greek word for “shame”, because it would go against his cultural grain to be inhospitable, and “persistence” is one letter different. I am told that this word was transcribed incorrectly. I trust my source but have not found this anywhere else. Is it true?
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He got it wrong.

The Greek term is anaideia, lit. shamelessness or shameless persistence. This refers to the shameless or unashamed persistence of the neighbor, not the sleeping man. It in no way refers to the shame of the host.
 
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It wouldn’t make sense. Jesus told that parable to parallel his teaching on the Lord’s Prayer, where if one asks the Father will give.

If you asked, would God the Father give you something out of shame?
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I agree with you Pinoy, God will not be shamed! Also remember the man from whom bread was sought first said “leave me alone”, or in other words “no”, but later gave in. Maybe the man in his bed was avoiding the shame that would come when the neighbors were awakened by the ruckus. Regardless what changed his decision, Jesus was telling us to be persistent in our prayer, because if sinful men can be pursuaded, how much easier will be the Heavenly Father.

Peace to All
 
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