Luke 21:24 meaning

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What does he mean by the day the gentiles is fulfilled, is there a cut off

It then talks about signs in the sky that follows…
 
Hellothere said:
What does he mean by the day the gentiles is fulfilled, is there a cut off

It then talks about signs in the sky that follows…
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D-R Bible, Haydock Commentary:

Ver. 24. Whoever reads Josephus’s history of the calamities which befell Jerusalem before its destruction, will find none of these terrible menaces unfulfilled. Seventy thousand were carried away captives in this war. After the soldiers were weary of killing, Titus ordered the finest of the young men to be kept to adorn his triumph. The number of captive Jews was so great in Rome, as to make the heathen poet, Rutilius Numantianus, who lived about the year 410, complain of it as a great burden to the empire.
Atque utinam nunquam Judea subacta fuisset

Pompeii bellis, imperioque Titi;

Latius excisæ pestis contagia serpunt

Victoresque suos natio victa premit.
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— Trodden down, &c. After Jerusalem had been taken and destroyed by the Romans, another city was built from its ruins, called Ælia, after the name of the emperor Ælius Adrian. This was inhabited by pagans and some Christians for the Jews were forbidden even to come near it, for more than two or three centuries. Tertullian informs us, that they even bought, at a great price, permission to see it at a distance, and drop a tear over the ashes of their ancient and ill-fated country. Thus was Jerusalem trodden under foot, till the time of the nations was accomplished; that is, till Christianity, in every nation, had triumphed over the persecution of paganism. (Calmet) — Till the times of the nations be fulfilled. According to the common exposition of this, and some other places, the Jews from the time of the destruction of their temple and city, under Titus Vespasian; and especially from their utter destruction under the emperor Adrian, in punishment of their obstinate blindness, shall remain dispersed through the world under miseries and oppressions, till the gospel hath been preached to all nations; then, not long before the end of the world, the Jews shall be converted, and acknowledge Jesus to be their true Messias. See Romans xi. 25. (Witham)
 
24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
25 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26 People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

sounds like end times?
 
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Julius_Caesar said:
Did everyone see Jesus on the clouds? No.
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My understanding is this is not literal, but represents the judgment of God coming upon them. Again, to cite the Haydock commentary:
Jews shall not see him corporally, but at the last judgment. Then, says the Scripture, (Zacharias xii. 10.) They shall see him whom they pierced with nails. But in the ruin of Jerusalem, all who will compare his predictions with the event, can evidently see that this was the day of his coming, so plainly marked in his words. Every body could see that this was evidently the hand of God that punished them. (Calmet)
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The Scriptures in other places describes God’s judgment coming upon a people or group as if on a “swift cloud” or similar cloud imagery. Christ’s words would be understood. This is why Christ said those living then would see it.
 
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Genesis315 said:
My understanding is this is not literal, but represents the judgment of God coming upon them.
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Your understanding would contradict John’s in Revelation since it’s the exact verse bar for bar.
 
It’s about the destruction of Jerusalem. When you read the entire chapter you’ll see the prophecy is about the coming destruction of the Temple and the end of the old covenant. It’s also what we read in Matthew 24.

It ties directly into Revelation with the opening of the seals and the destruction that they bring upon the land. That is what John sees.
 
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It’s about the destruction of Jerusalem. When you read the entire chapter you’ll see the prophecy is about the coming destruction of the Temple and the end of the old covenant. It’s also what we read in Matthew 24.
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Something in the future is more like it.

Nation didn’t rise against nation or kingdom against kingdom in 70 A.D.
 
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Not if you keep reading. He goes onto say
But before all this they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors for my name’s sake.
Luke 21:12
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It doesn’t make sense for us to be delivered up to the synagogues today or in the future. And other nations did rise up against Israel and others. I believe you can read about it in the works of Josephus and other historians.

Not to mention in verse 20 it literally says,
“But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it;
Luke 21:20-21
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So he’s telling us that Jerusalem’s desolation is at hand. If this was about the second coming at the end of time, what good will it do to flee to the mountains? And why is it only applicable to those in Judea?
 
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I’d be keen on limiting it to merely 70 A.D.

Paul seems to have not.

Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God (2 Thess 2:3-4).
 
Julius_Caesar said:
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The Fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple is also a sign of the end of the World, Some prophesies have a double application. To the ancient jews their temple was a mini universe - hence its destruction in AD70 signified the destruction of the world at the end of time
 
That hurts not helps your claim. Because then you can’t restrict it to 70 A.D.
 
That is a reference to Caesar Nero. The Caesars believed themselves divine and demanded to be worshipped as such. This is evident from Roman history and the numerous Roman temples and statues of the Caesars, including Nero. This fits in with what Paul was speaking about in that verse you quoted.

Nero set himself up against God and demanded to be worshipped as such.

Plus the passage you quoted doesn’t explain how the other passages in Luke and Matthew are still speaking about some future event. If anything it disproves it.
 
Right. And he was the particular anti-Christ in this prophecy.

I don’t doubt there are verses that refer to the final coming, but the majority aren’t dealing with this subject. The prophecies are about the coming destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the old covenant. This is what ushered in the Kingdom and the means of our Salvation.
 
Many OT prophecies have an application for the situation the prophet was speaking to and an application to the Christian era also. I believe thats taught by Scott Hahn and other Bible teachers.
 
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