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I desperately need help with my Bible study homework. Please give your best answers to the following questions:

Luke 5:1-11
  1. At what future situation in verses 4-6 does this hint, which is foreshadowed in Jesus’ words in verse 10?
  2. Explain Simon’s response to Jesus’ seemingly foolish sugggestion in verse 4.
  3. Does the result strengthen your trust in Peter’s successors?
Any assistance you can give me will be greatly appreciated?
 
It really makes me sad that most people have ignored this thread so far :mad:

Friend, I do not know the exact answer, but just trying to give you an idea. You can do a comparative study between these verses and John 21: 1-14 newadvent.org/bible/joh021.htm

I guess you should also read Galatians 2: 9

Please also remember that the Gospel of Luke presents narratives of conversions and stresses the notion of evangelization more than the other Gospels. (The same thing can be said about the Acts of the Apostles, written by Luke again). Moreover, in Luke Jesus is the savior that visits many people in their homes to warn and call them to redemption, and most of the conversions are witnessed by a large crowd and function as the indicators of Jesus’ divine wisdom and power: The conversion of the prostitiute in Simon’s house, 7: 36-50, Zacheus’ conversion 19: 2-11, etc…

I hope these will help you a bit 🙂

Peace and blessings to all those souls seeking the truth to embrace it
 
Here is some quotes from St. Thomas Aquinas’ catena that are related to your answer. These are quotes from the Early Church Fathers.
AMBROSE; Now in a mystery, the ship of Peter, according to Matthew, is beaten about by the waves, according to Luke, is filled with fishes, in order that you might understand the Church at first wavering, at last abounding. The ship is not shaken which holds Peter; that is which holds Judas. In each was Peter; but he who trusts in his own merits is disquieted by another’s. Let us beware then of a traitor, lest through one we should many of us be tossed about. Trouble is found there where faith is weak, safety here where love is perfect. Lastly, though to others it is commanded, Let down your nets, to Peter alone it is said, Launch out into the deep, i.e. into deep researches. What is so deep, as the knowledge of the Son of God! But what are the nets of the Apostles which are ordered to be let down, but the interweaving of words and certain folds, as it were, of speech, and intricacies of argument, which never let those escape whom they have once caught. And rightly are nets the Apostolical instruments for fishing, which kill not the fish that are caught, but keep them safe, and bring up those that are tossing about in the waves from the depths below to the regions above. But he says, Master, we have toiled the whole night and have caught nothing; for this is not the work of human eloquence but the gift of divine calling. But they who had before caught nothing, at the word of the Lord enclosed a great multitude of fishes.
CYRIL; Now this was a figure of the future. For they will not labor in vain who let down the net of evangelical doctrine, but will gather together the shoals of the Gentiles.
AUG. Now the circumstance of the nets breaking, and the ships being filled with the multitude of fishes that they began to sink, signifies that there will be in the Church so great a multitude of carnal men, that unity will be broken up, and it will be split into heresies and schisms
 
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  1. Does the result strengthen your trust in Peter’s successors?
AMBROSE; Say you also, Depart from me, for I am a sinful man, O Lord, that God may answer, Fear not. Confess your sin, and the Lord will pardon you. See how good the Lord is, who gives so much to men, that they have the power of making alive. As it follows, From henceforth you shall catch men.

THEOPHYL; This especially belongs to Peter himself, for the Lord explains to him what this taking of fish means; that in fact as now he takes fishes by the net, so hereafter he will catch men by words. And the whole order of this event shows what is daily going on in the Church, of which Peter is the type.
 
These are my immediate reactions:
  1. The Great Commission- to teach and baptize all- will not be easy work. If the Apostles trust in their own efforts they will miss the mark and fail miserably. If they trust in God and put out fearlessly into the deep, risking all for Jesus’ sake, they will succeed.
  2. Simon is still thinking like the Old Man: fallen, doubtful, limited by his worldly perceptions.
  3. This is one of several instances where Peter shows the depth of his “fallenness” only to be given insight into his true worth as a human being made in the image and likeness of God. I find it inspires great confidence in him as the chosen head of the Church because he has learned by direct, agonizing experience. Remember, none of the disciples “got it” fully until Pentecost.
JSA
 
I desperately need help with my Bible study homework. Please give your best answers to the following questions:

Luke 5:1-11
  1. At what future situation in verses 4-6 does this hint, which is foreshadowed in Jesus’ words in verse 10?
Can you rephrase this question ?
  1. Explain Simon’s response to Jesus’ seemingly foolish suggestion in verse 4.
Peters response is any different from most, imaging being weary from fishing all night to be told cast your nets in there, you would probably give that person the long stare, along with a roll of the eyes.:rolleyes:

In the absence of Pentecost, he had a weak faith, and probably misunderstood who Jesus really was.
  1. Does the result strengthen your trust in Peter’s successors?
No, but I always think of this when I hear people say that Peter wasn’t worthy to be given the keys.

Luke 20:17 But he looking on them, said: What is this then that is written, The stone, which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?
 
I’ve started looking through commentaries of Mark and Matthew to see if there is any clue to what this Bible study author is looking for. I have some guesses just based on the nature of the question. For example, the successors to Peter would be the popes.

I was told that there is no right or wrong answers, but obviously the author is looking for a specific answer. The problem with this course it that there is no priest, DRE or other knowledgeable person to tell us what the right answer is and explain it. For all we know, we could be completely off base and interpreting what we read literally as a Protestant would. I can do better sitting on my couch at home. 😦
 
Eireann,

You’re having the same problem with these questions that I had. Question #1: left me clueless.
Question #2: probably had something to do with not having faith and giving up to easily.
Question #3: is probably supposed to be “yes” but I have no idea why.
 
Eireann,

You’re having the same problem with these questions that I had.

Question #1: left me clueless.

Question #2: probably had something to do with not having faith and giving up to easily.

Question #3: is probably supposed to be “yes.” Perhaps, because the experience of casting the nets in deeper water is proof to him to have faith. The popes as successors to Peter have this same faith.
 
**1. At what future situation in verses 4-6 does this hint, which is foreshadowed in Jesus’ words in verse 10?**I too thought of John 21.
But there were also some things/expressions that reminded me of Matt14:22-34.
Matt passage: Jesus says “have no fear”
Luke passage: Jesus says “be not afraid”
*(similar words by Our Lord)Matt: Lord if it is you, bid me come to you on the water. Jesus says “Come” so Peter does what He says even tho it seems impossible.
Luke: Jesus says to go out again, and even tho it seemed foolish to Peter, He did what Jesus said.
* (situation similar in that sole catalyst for Peter’s action is trust in the word of Jesus)


2. Explain Simon’s response to Jesus’ seemingly foolish sugggestion in verse 4.“But at Your word I will let down the nets.” To me it shows that Peter trusts the word of Our Lord more than his own judgement. We can sure all learn something from that!

**3. Does the result strengthen your trust in Peter’s successors?**Definitely yes. For me it is a demonstration of how Jesus will step in with His power when necessary - when human judgement of “Peter” falls short.

Is this from the Little Rock Bible Study?

Nita

P.S. Haven’t learned how to do the quotes yet. Will have to work on that.
 
Is this from the Little Rock Bible Study?

Nita

P.S. Haven’t learned how to do the quotes yet. Will have to work on that.
This course is called Catholic Scripture Study, Inc. and was written by Sister Marie Therese Wright, SSMN. My parish has been using this course for over 20 years. A woman in my Bible study group is the contact person for this course and she thinks it’s great (of course). The course may be great, but it’s not getting the proper implementation at my parish. I blame that on the DRE who I think the world of.
 
It really makes me sad that most people have ignored this thread so far :mad:
Angelos, do you also go back and look for unanswered threads? :rotfl:

I often start on the last page of the New Posts when I come on board.
 
This course is called Catholic Scripture Study, Inc. and was written by Sister Marie Therese Wright, SSMN. My parish has been using this course for over 20 years. A woman in my Bible study group is the contact person for this course and she thinks it’s great (of course). The course may be great, but it’s not getting the proper implementation at my parish. I blame that on the DRE who I think the world of.
Thanks for the info Leahlnancsi. First time I’ve heard of this study. Checked out the website you gave and am looking forward to getting their books.

Nita
 
Eireann,

You’re having the same problem with these questions that I had.

Question #1: left me clueless.
Well after re-reading it and getting my brain in gear, I’d have to say that Jesus always taught in parables, little examples of everyday life, and the Apostles could understand better, or link the catching of fish to the catching of men, although I suppose they couldn’t fully understand Christs mission, there is also a lesson of faith in there.
 
Angelos, do you also go back and look for unanswered threads? :rotfl:

I often start on the last page of the New Posts when I come on board.
This thread sat unanswered to two days. I really wasn’t surprised. The questions seemed to go so much deeper than anything I could see from reading the Scripture. I just assumed the everyone else was seeing the same thing when they read the questions.

Thanks to Angelos for getting the thread moving.
 
Thanks for the info Leahlnancsi. First time I’ve heard of this study. Checked out the website you gave and am looking forward to getting their books.

Nita
Which books are those? The books for the study group or the commentaries? Somewhere on that website I saw some commentaries (Collegeville and New Jerome) they recommend, but today I couldn’t find them. Are you planning to start a study group or would you use it for your personal use?

Just curious because I might to the same.
 
Well after re-reading it and getting my brain in gear, I’d have to say that Jesus always taught in parables, little examples of everyday life, and the Apostles could understand better, or link the catching of fish to the catching of men, although I suppose they couldn’t fully understand Christs mission, there is also a lesson of faith in there.
Last night I came across that same idea in a commentary that is intended for educators and clergy, Sacra Pagina. Your average Catholic in the pew isn’t going to invest in that level of commentary. The only reason I did is because I’m a book freak and I have to have everthing I can get my hands on regarding the subject I’m reseraching. If there is no “teacher’s manual,” I suspect that this may not be obvious to the folks in my study group without more guidance from the Holy Spirit than we seem to have.
 
Which books are those? The books for the study group or the commentaries? Somewhere on that website I saw some commentaries (Collegeville and New Jerome) they recommend, but today I couldn’t find them. Are you planning to start a study group or would you use it for your personal use?

Just curious because I might to the same.
Went to your Catholic Scripture Study Inc site and (after a lot of clicks) came to the page that showed a 5 series Scripture study. Picture looked like books, but maybe they weren’t. Didn’t check very deep yet.

Have run several Bible studies over the years, but always have trouble finding challenging materials. Did have a Bible study in our parish last year, but not this year. We’re (husband and I) just gone too much. Wish someone else in our parish would have one. Would like to just attend. I love being a “student”, but am a terrible moderator!
I will probably order some of the studies from this site and do them on my own.

Nita

Nita
 
This one is nice because it’s FREE! The Sister’s order would appreciate any contribution you can give, but it’s not required.

The “books” you saw were the course materials for each year. It is a five year course.
 
Angelos, do you also go back and look for unanswered threads? :rotfl:

I often start on the last page of the New Posts when I come on board.
Peace & blessings to you Eileen 🙂

You see that my reaction to this thread’s going unnoticed for a long time has finally spurred many to post various messages one after another. Thanks to all 😃
 
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