Lustful Thoughts = Sinful

[Singapore_Nick]

Hi,

As human beings I supposed that occasionally we’d have some sexual thoughts. Is it a venial sin to have such thoughts ? What if the thoughts do not lead us into “actions” ?

 

[CivisRomanusSum]

If such lustful thoughts come at random through no fault of your own, these are temptations. Resist them and pray to God that you do not fall into the devil’s allure.

However, if one deliberately conjures sexually immoral thoughts and images, then it is a sin. “But I say this to you: if a man looks at a woman lustfully, he has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew 5:28)”

 

[supertubos]

Hi,

As human beings I supposed that occasionally we’d have some sexual thoughts. Is it a venial sin to have such thoughts ? What if the thoughts do not lead us into “actions” ?/QUOTEey

No. We are animals as any animal is. God created all living creatures. And gave them sexual desires as to reproduce. Living creatures die. Without sex, they will all disappear. Our sexual desires are divine, as sex was created by God.

But we are rational too. We do not follow our sexual desires as the irrational animals do. We follow our head and intelligence. But sometimes intelligence and sex fight against each other, as they pull in different directions.

Besides, we are divine, religious people. But different religions defend different sex attitudes, from polygamous to monogamous. Catholics have the most strict and rigorous goals and rules.
So, you cannot consider sin what is simply an animal desire. What could be sin would be to not accept what Jesus wanted from us, men and women. But it is difficult as human nature, society, the devil, our animal nature, the circumstances of life pull us away from God’s wishes.
The important thing is, no matter what happens, to always wish, want and do God’s will in respect to sex.

 

[brgregmack]

I will also just repeat that it depends on whether or not the thoughts are random (temptation) or willfully conjured (sin).

Christ’s peace

 

[beeliner]

Singapore Nick;8036997:

Hi,

As human beings I supposed that occasionally we’d have some sexual thoughts. Is it a venial sin to have such thoughts ? What if the thoughts do not lead us into “actions” ?[/QUOTEey

No. We are animals as any animal is. God created all living creatures. And gave them sexual desires as to reproduce. Living creatures die. Without sex, they will all disappear. Our sexual desires are divine, as sex was created by God.

But we are rational too. We do not follow our sexual desires as the irrational animals do. We follow our head and intelligence. But sometimes intelligence and sex fight against each other, as they pull in different directions.

Besides, we are divine, religious people. But different religions defend different sex attitudes, from polygamous to monogamous. Catholics have the most strict and rigorous goals and rules.
So, you cannot consider sin what is simply an animal desire. What could be sin would be to not accept what Jesus wanted from us, men and women. But it is difficult as human nature, society, the devil, our animal nature, the circumstances of life pull us away from God’s wishes.
The important thing is, no matter what happens, to always wish, want and do God’s will in respect to sex.

I notice that this is only your second post here.

If your future posts are as intelligent and logical as this one, you’ll be an outstanding asset to these forums.

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[Monica4316]

If they just come to them but you resist them and don’t consent to them, you have not sinned.

If you willfully consent to them , that is a sin.

 

[novusCatholic]

You can’t stop thoughts from popping into your head, but you don’t have to dwell upon them. Also, remember that sometimes the best medicine is prevention. Don’t place yourself into situations that could lead to indecent thoughts. The more that you occupy your mind with a focus upon God, the less room there will be for undesireable thoughts to creep in.

 

[supertubos]

supertubos;8037208:

I notice that this is only your second post here.

If your future posts are as intelligent and logical as this one, you’ll be an outstanding asset to these forums.

Thanks for your feedback. God gave me more than I deserved, Society gave me more than I ever thought possible. I have an urge to pay back a little tiny bit of what God gave to me to my fellow brothers. If I can help, I stay. If not, I retreat. You post told me that maybe I could stay. Cheers.

 

[supertubos]

If they just come to them but you resist them and don’t consent to them, you have not sinned.

If you willfully consent to them , that is a sin.

I think it is wrong. To resist is worse that let it go. Sex thoughts are stronger than you. If you fight so as “not to consent to them”, it is a lost battle. Sex is life and life wants to reproduce itself so badly that takes everything on its way. If sex thoughts come to your mind you are not thinking, they just came to your mind. Images are just … images, thoughts are just … thoughts. If you resist to them you giving them too much respect than what they deserve. My Zen Guru taught me: “dont resist, dont dwell on it, dont analyze. Just let it go”. Cheers

 

[supertubos]

I will also just repeat that it depends on whether or not the thoughts are random (temptation) or willfully conjured (sin).

Christ’s peace

Sorry, I may be wrong, but all thoughts are random. At least for me, and I think everybody is the same, if you want to think in some lustful thought, it just does not come anything. Sex desires come from the unconscious. Cheers

 

[supertubos]

If such lustful thoughts come at random through no fault of your own, these are temptations. Resist them and pray to God that you do not fall into the devil’s allure.

However, if one deliberately conjures sexually immoral thoughts and images, then it is a sin. “But I say this to you: if a man looks at a woman lustfully, he has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew 5:28)”

Sorry, again, I have given my opinion. Of course, Jesus gave His command. Period. But Jesus did not say that the best way to attain what He orders us to do is to “resist”. Cheers.

 

[supertubos]

You can’t stop thoughts from popping into your head, but you don’t have to dwell upon them. Also, remember that sometimes the best medicine is prevention. Don’t place yourself into situations that could lead to indecent thoughts. The more that you occupy your mind with a focus upon God, the less room there will be for undesireable thoughts to creep in.

I dont like the term “indecent”. It is Victorian. Sex is not “not-decent”. “indecent” is different from “sin”. Sex is complicated: On Winter, thoughts of a woman in bikini may come to your mind (I am a man). But on Summer, after 1 hour at the beach, you become fed up of seeing bikinis and wish that maybe it would be better that some women would be dressed like in winter ! Cheers