Luther, Lefebvre, Pivaraunis, Kelly, Pulvermacher, etc

[Sean_O_L]

Communication Received from Captain (Ret.) Roniel Aledo, US Army.

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Subject : The Luther Heresy

Luther heresy of Free interpretation was simple. He reads the Bible, COMPARED what he read to the teachings of the Pope and said: “The Pope is RIGHT here and WRONG there”

**“I Martin Luther say so! After careful examination and comparison between the word of God and what the Popes teaches, I declare that the Pope is wrong in 2, 3, 6 and 8” **
Then Calvin did the same thing and said the Pope was wrong in “1, 5, 9, 12”

Henry VII had a lot more light. After careful “comparison” and examination he concluded that the Pope was “only” wrong in 1 and 2.

And so on and so on and now we have hundreds of sects all around, each one with the “True” interpretation of Faith.

Lefebvre did the same! Only one little difference: he read directly from encyclicals and documents of the past Magisterium. That is it. That is the only difference between Lefebvre and Luther version of Free interpretation.

Luther from the Bible, Lefebvre from past Magisterium.

“We don’t create our Dogmas and Faith, we just teach the Dogmas and Faith as it has ALWAYS been declared” or so said Lefebvre.

But how do I know his interpretation of those Dogmas is what the Church “always” decreed??

----If bishop Lefebvre reads old encyclicals, compares them with the documents of the Popes and get to the conclusion in his PRIVATE JUDMENT that the Pope is not “traditional” here and there…(Therefore the Pope is Wrong and Lefebvre really knows what “tradition” is.)

—Then what stops Bishop John to read old encyclicals, compare them in his private judgment with the documents of the Pope and get to the conclusion that the Pope is not “Traditional” here, over there and ALSO in XX?

(Therefore the Pope is Wrong, Lefebvre is Wrong and only Bishop John knows what real Tradition is.)

—What stops Bishop Michael to read old encyclicals, COMPARE them in his private judgment with the Pope’s documents and get to the conclusion that the Pope in not “traditional” here, over there, and ALSO in XX, YYY and ZZZ?

(Therefore the Pope is Wrong, Lefebvre is Wrong, Bishop Michael is Wrong, and only Bishop Michael is the only one who really knows what “Tradition” is.)

—And what stops Bishop Ramon? And Bishop Elmer? And Bishop Roniel?

—What stops every single priest, Theologian or Bishop in the world to read old Encyclicals, COMPARE them with the Popes documents and judge where the Popes are “right” and where the Popes are “wrong”, where the Pope is “traditional” and where the Pope is “not Traditional”?

Lefebvre swears he knew where the Pope was NOT “traditional” based on his Private judgement and comparison of old encyclicals …But…also…

1. Bishop CLARENCE says the same thing!

And because the Pope is not “traditional” and because SSPX also does not understand “tradition” he founded his own society!
http://www.sspv-bishop.org/

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[Sean_O_L]

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1. Bishop MARK says the same thing! And because the Pope is not “traditional” and because SSPX also does not understand “tradition” , and Bishop Mark is not Traditional, he founded his own society!
   http://www.cmri.org/bishop.htm
2. Bishop **LUCIANO **says the same thing! And because the Pope is not “traditional” and because Lefebvre is not Traditional, and Bishop Mark is not Traditional and Bishop Clarence is not Traditonal…" he founded his own society!
   http://www.truecatholic.org/pope/
3. Father DAVID says the same thing! Website Disabled
4. Also the followers of Father LEONARD, who have their own society:
   Redirecting...
5. And Father** GREGORIO** he REALLY knows where True TRADITION is!
   http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/7170/ibio1.htm

How do I, or any Catholic knows out of this “traditional” buffet where real Tradition is?

Where the Truth is? ? ?

Who do I believe??

• Must I believe Lefebvre or Clarence?
• Bishop Mark or Bishop Luciano?
• The Pope or Luciano?
• Leferbve or Mark?
• The Pope or Mark?

-Clarence or Luciano?

-Gregorio or the Pope??

• The Pope or David ??

Who??!!!

Who do I believe?

With who is the Holy Spirit?

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[Sean_O_L]

    --- " 85 -The task of giving an **authentic interpretation of the Word of God**, whether in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ." This means that the task of interpretation has been entrusted ***to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter,***** the Bishop of Rome.** " (Catechism if the Catholic Church)

Only the Pope and the Bishops in Communion with him can say what TRADITION is and what Tradition is not.

Only the Pope and the Bishops in COMMUNION with him have the promise of the Holy Ghost.

Not Mark, Not Lefebvre, Not Fellay, Not Clarence, Not Luciano, Not Gregorio, Not David, Not Williamson, Not Luther, Not Calvin, BUT THE TRUE MAGISTERIUM OF THE CHURCH (Pope and Bishops in Communion with Him) ONLY.

Pope Paul VI:

** "Christ has given the supreme authority in His Church . . . to the Pope and to the college of Bishops una cum Capite. . . . “the charge of teaching and governing… cannot be exercised except in hierarchical communion with the head of the College and with its members” **

A fortiori, a single bishop without a canonical mission does not have, in actu expedito ad agendum,** the faculty of deciding in general what the rule of faith is or of determining what Tradition is.**

**In practice you are claiming that you alone are the judge of what Tradition embraces." **(Unanswered Letter from Pope Paul VI to Lefebvre, 1976)

Giving yourself the “power”, to know and teach what TRUTH is not , or what Tradition is and what is not, is the SAME HERESY OF MARTIN LUTHER: The heresy of FREE INTERPRETATION.

— Michael Davies: **"****I have been greatly saddened during the past five years to note the emergence of what I term neo-Protestants. These are men who claim to be serving the Faith, but who, to all intents and purposes, have become Protestants. ****The essence of Protestantism is that each Protestant is his own pope. He refuses to submit to the Magisterium, the teaching authority, of the Church founded by Our Lord, but makes ****his personal opinion **the ultimate authority of what he will or will not believe. (Near his death in 2004)