Do you have a link to the Cardinal’s complete writing on this subject instead of this mere exerpt from it? I would like to read in it’s entirety what he wrote so I can see in context exactly what he was saying.
I hear ya, but you cannot separate the message from the source. Paul even tells Timothy to hold fast to what he learned because he knows WHO HE LEARNED IT FROM - ie, what kind of people they are - not from the merits of the arguments they might offer.
Um, if you think Cajetan was a “dissident” you need to read the Catholic Encyclopedia article on him I linked to.
Since we’re in verification mode:
Maybe you should ask David Armstrong or Art Sippo that question.
Umm… have you read his blog?
Hmmm…Swan quoted the Roman Catholic historian Joseph Lortz? Amazing. Why would he do that? He can’t really believe all that clap trap about how important Lortz’s studies have been to the Catholic understanding of Luther. That Swan guy is too much! Everyone knows that Lortz was a Nazi, and all the praise for his work by both serious Catholic and Protestant scholars is pure lies and deception. Again, Swan can’t be trusted. Never read his Luther research.
Oh that awful blog! filled with falsehood! Keep up the good work mom2three of exposing guys like Swan.
Shazam!!
Well, you’re a “moderate Catholic”. I’m sure you are capable of finding the errors throughout his blog. I gave you the biggest example I could.
For the umpteen millionth time:
LUTHER DID NOT “REJECT” THE EPISTLE OF JAMES.
Early in in public life he said some things about it which has led many to conclude that, at that time, he did not consider it as important as, say, the Epistle of Paul to the Romans. Sometimes the way he chose to say this was rather more forceful than we would like.
Later in life, however, he revised this view and said some very charitable things about it although it does seem clear that his conviction that the doctrine of Sola Fide clearly articulated gives a given book of the Bible more importance caused him to continue to hold James in a secondary position.
If you look at the table of contents of any edition of his translation of the Bible, you will see that he translated and included James as fully canonical.
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I visited that silly blog, and the errors jumped off the page. The guy is so out there. Specifics don’t need to be given when it’s so obvious everything there is fueled by error. Especially the Luther material. For instance, he wrote this totally error filled article on Luther calling James an epistle of straw.
Even worse, he tries to use quotes from the early church fathers saying they held to the teaching on the primacy, sufficiency and ultimate authority of Scripture.
Agreed. It’s like telling Catholics to read Jack Chick or Dave Hunt.
I think it would be helpful to list those resources by Roman Catholics on Luther. That sneaky guy Swan always recommends Catholic scholars that have written on Luther, but they are probably lukewarm Catholics, not *full-fledged *Catholics. To my knowledge, none of the current batch of Catholic apologists has written a full length work on Luther (Madrid, Hahn, Sungenis, etc.), but take heart! Father Patrick O’Hare wrote an entire book exposing Luther’s lies in the early 1900’s. It’s called, The Facts About Luther.
I don’t think Pope Benedict XVI had much of a choice at the time. I’m positive he wasn’t on the same side theoretically with Hitler.Yeah, that Swan guy is probably a Nazi sympathizer as well. Can’t trust those guys. Sippo is right, refutation by Ad Hom is quicker and less work any way.
Was’nt the Pope a Nazi for a while?
Being from Deutschland, does’nt that make him a German Shepherd? Or maybe the Top Dog?
I don’t think Pope Benedict XVI had much of a choice at the time. I’m positive he wasn’t on the same side theoretically with Hitler.Yeah, that Swan guy is probably a Nazi sympathizer as well. Can’t trust those guys. Sippo is right, refutation by Ad Hom is quicker and less work any way.
Was’nt the Pope a Nazi for a while?
Being from Deutschland, does’nt that make him a German Shepherd? Or maybe the Top Dog?
Ratzinger was a member of Hitler Jugend, Hitler’s “boyscouts”, just like any other German kid at that time. Hitler Jugend was not something you could choose… it was not voluntary at all and dosesn’t proove any extraordinary support for Hitler.
