Lutheran Rosary?

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Mommyof02green said:
I’ve seen things that say it’s a “Lutheran tradition”…

I’ve seen things that say it’s a medieval thing…

And others that say it is a pre-Christian thing…
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I’ve seen things that say a Lutheran pastor was the first to have a Christmas tree in a church.
 
lak611 said:
I’ve seen things that say a Lutheran pastor was the first to have a Christmas tree in a church.
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Sorry I should my post clearer… I was referring to the origins of the advent wreath. :o
 
I do know this one for certain, they originated in the Lutheran church.
 
lak611 said:
I don’t know about the history of advent wreaths.
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Traveller1534 said:
I do know this one for certain, they originated in the Lutheran church.
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Like I said I’ve seen stuff that states the advent wreath is a Lutheran tradition; Stuff that said it started in medieval times, and others that say it’s a pre-christian thing.

Doing a “google” search on the “advent wreath origins” will show you what I mean.

God Bless and Happy Easter
 
God bless you as well. May God’s peace and love shine through with the celebration of Christ’s ressurection tomororow.
 
Not to be rude, wreaths and trees are interesting and all… but the topic is the Rosary.

The Rosary is definitely pre-reformation and not exclusively Roman Catholic.
 
Angainor said:
Not to be rude, wreaths and trees are interesting and all… but the topic is the Rosary.

The Rosary is definitely pre-reformation and not exclusively Roman Catholic.
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you’re right it’s about Rosaries… sorry for the derail.
 
Traveller1534 said:
Exactly. Just as C.S. Lewis was Anglican (not Catholic) and the National Cathedral is an Anglican church (not Catholic) and the first church here in the U.S. was the Anglican church and not the Catholic church hence George Washington. Not trying to insult Catholics here, I am just merely pointing out that many folks mistake some people and things in history as Catholic when actually they were not.
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Hence George Washington? Hence what?

Who is mistaking Washington for being Catholic? Most all of us know Kennedy as the sole Catholic president.

The first church in what would become the US was a Catholic parish in Florida.

By the time there WAS a US, there were Catholic parishes a plenty relative to the population in a mission country.

The “National Cathedral” is no more a state church or a “National Church” than any other parish in WDC - they simply enjoy good real estate & size and happen to work well with most confessions wishing to have ceremonies there - hence why Gerald Ford
 
Traveller1534 said:
Many Catholics even believe that the wreath is Catholic but truthfully it is of Lutheran origin. You certainly don’t hear Lutherans making a big deal out of Catholics using their Lutheran" Advent wreath.
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Can you please point to instances where Catholics are anoyed with or making “a big deal out of” Lutherans praying the Rosary?

Generally, when we hear of such, we are a bit stupified because it seems to go very much against the grain of what many (Luther’s own feelings on the matter aside - his theology is selectively expounded in his modern adherants) Lutheran’s commonly would say or do.

That SOME Lutherans do this is not up for debate -it is known that some Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopalians and a Presbyterian or two DO pray it.

That it is common praxis? That is doubtful and common experience and a little research would bear this out. Don’t believe me, open your phone book to the afore mentioned denominations and start calling your local affiliated congregations and ask them:
  1. Is it common practice for the Rosary to be recited on sunday before liturgy?
  2. Would this be generally welcomed if a group was interested?
  3. Would this be a common practice among any organized lay groups? (Lutheran Altar Rosary Societies?)
  4. Would such a practice generally be characterized as in synch with the devotional life of the your creed? Or generally tolerated (but not enccouraged per se) as a manifestation of personal devotion?
IF IT HAPPENS to be the case that the Episcopal Church you call is Anglo Catholic, the Lutheran Church you call is “Evangelical Catholic” and the Methodist and Presbyterian congregations you call are pastored by members of the Order of St. Luke (how likely is that?) and all four pray the Rosary en masse on Sundays before liturgy AND encourage it, please then ask a FIFTH question:
  1. How representitive of your confession is your community?
BTW, if you happen to in fact live in a part of the world where all four of the afore mentioned Protestant communities pray the Rosary, let me know. If the Protestants there are that Catholic, I can only imagine how Catholic the Catholics are.
 
A Rosary without Mother Mary is like a Bible without the words.🙂
 
catsrus said:
Having been raised in the *elca, *catachized, sang in choir, blah, blah, I NEVER in my life heard of any such thing as a “lutheran rosary” or ANY rosary at all. That was a “Catholic thing”.

I agree with Damascus. Instead of culling our Sacramentals and prayers for their far from Catholic church, why not just admit that Luther was a heretic, turn back around and jump that Tiber?!!

If one wants to ACT Catholic, then BE Catholic.
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God works in mysterious ways.
First the rosary then…
 
lak611 said:
That’s awesome! :clapping: :bounce: But when I suggested Lutheran prayers for Catholics, I wasn’t trying to say Catholic prayers are at all inadequate. There are some Protestant prayers I like. For instance, I like Protestant grace before meals better than Catholic, since it’s usually a spontaneous personal prayer rather than something in a prayer book.
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LOL! I’m the other way round. I grew up dreading being asked to say grace because I was expected to sound spontaneous, and grace before meals is by definition a pretty stylized prayer. I now typically use the Catholic “Bless us, O Lord, in these thy gifts” whenever I can get away with it (which thankfully now includes a meal taken with my parents). On my own or with my wife, I typically just cross myself and bow my head briefly.

Edwin
 
Caesar said:
We have 2000 years worth of our own prayers. Why say the prayers of the Lutherans?
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This is a solid example of the arrogance that prohibits reasonable healthy dialogue surrounding this or any related scenario.
 
We say the common Lutheran table prayer,

“Come, Lord Jesus, be our Guest, and let these gifts to us be blest.”
 
Techno2000 said:
A Rosary without Mother Mary is like a Bible without the words.🙂
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Sorry, but the chotchki with its 33 or more beads, and the recitation of the Jesus Prayer, Lord Have Mercy, or even Alleluia (seasonal) is common Slavic Christian Practice. Catholic and Orthodox.

And it is often referred to as the Jesus Rosary. Oh, and it predates the marian one.
 
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