"Lutherans" Why the name?

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steve_b said:
As an aside, Priests don’t ask a communicant if they’ve been to confession before they give them communion. Even a highly visible politician with a history. If on Saturday pelosi made a complete confession, and radically changed her views as a result, and presented herself for communion on Sunday, she could receive the Eucharist. And who would be able to know the particulars but she and the priest. And the priest can’t talk about the confession. Only Pelosi could do that. But because she is a highly public figure, it would be easy to see if she really did change. Since this is a (what if) scenerio, and If she didn’t do a complete turnaround, Cordileone laid out the consequences for her soul
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So rather than stopping Ms. Pelosi at the rail, the priest stands idly by while she profanes Christ’s Body and Blood - to her own damnation? This does not seem the pastoral response, if the shepherdly priest has any concern for the soul of one of his flock…
 
steido01 said:
So rather than stopping Ms. Pelosi at the rail, the priest stands idly by while she profanes Christ’s Body and Blood - to her own damnation? This does not seem the pastoral response, if the shepherdly priest has any concern for the soul of one of his flock…
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Bishop Paprocki of Springfield just recently denied Sen. Durbin.
 
steido01 said:
So rather than stopping Ms. Pelosi at the rail, the priest stands idly by while she profanes Christ’s Body and Blood - to her own damnation? This does not seem the pastoral response, if the shepherdly priest has any concern for the soul of one of his flock…
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We’ve been working off what ifs. I would prefer to respond to an actual event.

As an aside, priests aren’t there to grill and judge every single communicant before they receive. I can’t see a priest doing that with 800 people at each mass x 5 masses. Each person is to examine their own conscience before receiving the Eucharist. They know the consequences to their own soul if they receive unworthily. I’m sure there are people at each mass, each Sunday that receive unworthily. It’s up to THEM to be honest with themselves and God. Either way, the sin they commit is on THEM.
 
Jon_S said:
I never thought I’d see Lutherans advocating for the Inquisition!!

Is the sky falling!
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After joining this forum, I am also surprised at the good attitude the Lutherans show towards the Catholic Church.
 
McCartney said:
After joining this forum, I am also surprised at the good attitude the Lutherans show towards the Catholic Church.
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Probably because we share a disdain for evangelicals and a love for the sacraments lol
 
Jon_S said:
Thanks for your honesty.

The only place I could find your quote was on Lutheran websites. It no doubt was an extrapolation (falsely but perhaps innocently) of the text.
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Pick your translation of the latin:

“In hac ejusque potestate duos esse gladios, spiritualem videlicet et temporalem, evangelicis dictis instruimur.”

from here:

catholicplanet.com/TSM/Unam-Sanctam-index.htm

There’s some good notes on the translation issues - and we have to understand Unam Sanctam history for the church was under attack from secular powers.

I understand the rationality - that if the Church was pure, who better to be our lord.

Sadly, in Lutheran eyes, that was rather hard to fathom when a non-concecrated scion of the Medici’s became the Pope and decided to fleece the poor for various reasons. (Again from a Lutheran standpoint.)

He did spend it amusing ways - he even had a pet elephant.
 
Per_Crucem said:
Probably because we share a disdain for evangelicals and a love for the sacraments lol
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In some of the darker times, Lutherans and Catholics would stop fighting with each other just long enough to go slaughter Anabaptists together. :hug3:

A rather gruesome form of ecumenism between our communions, I would say. :o
 
benjohnson said:
In some of the darker times, Lutherans and Catholics would stop fighting with each other just long enough to go slaughter Anabaptists together. :hug3:

A rather gruesome form of ecumenism between our communions, I would say. :o
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Do you mean we aren’t supposed to that?
Well I was told we are supposed to start with those
areas we have in common. 🙂 I just can’t get this
ecumenical thing down.

Sit, Anathema, sit!
Good dog.
 
marywarfield said:
Do you mean we aren’t supposed to that?
Well I was told we are supposed to start with those
areas we have in common. 🙂 I just can’t get this
ecumenical thing down.

Sit, Anathema, sit!
Good dog.
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If I ever get another dog , that is so going to be his name ! 😃

Whenever my dog anathema is pestering someone or something. I can say,

“Let them be! anathema!”
 
If a person receives Communion unworthly that is on the person. How is the priest to know? besides the priest is going to take it that one is in a state of grace to receive Communion and not refuse it to one. if a priest does refuse to give Communion say like Se. Durbin is because of professing beliefs contrary to Catholic teachings and have not renounced them.
 
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