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If filling out a health history and you put “no” for a question of ever having frequent headaches (migraines), when you did have some frequent headaches but never diagnosed with migraines, would this be mortal?
 
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The best thing to do is to take it up with your confessor. Go to Confession and discuss it.
 
roseb said:
If filling out a health history and you put “no” for a question of ever having frequent headaches (migraines), when you did have some frequent headaches but never diagnosed with migraines, would this be mortal?
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What kind of health history? for a job or insurance application? If you were not diagnosed with headaches, and it can’t be found on any of your medical charts, I would say NO. Because these things can follow you around and affect your insurance coverage years and years later. Go with the contents of your charts because insurance companies go over them with fine-toothed combs to look for ways to deny coverage and/or claims.

Being honest doesn’t mean giving information that someone doesn’t have business knowing. If it’s in your medical chart include it. If it’s not in your medical chart, you’re unintentionally making it up.

Case in point: migraines brought on by allergies or sinus congestion are NOT the same as headaches due to high blood pressure or stress. Very different senarios with different outcomes. Be careful what you put on documents that your insurance company (and all future insurance companies) will see.
 
If it’s a health history for a new doctor, and it’s relevant, you can discuss it with the doctor when you are being examined. It only hurts you if you leave it out.

If it’s for an application of some kind, I agree with the person who said to stick with things you have been formally diagnosed to have.

Betsy
 
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If filling out a health history and you put “no” for a question of ever having frequent headaches (migraines), when you did have some frequent headaches but never diagnosed with migraines, would this be mortal?
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did you intend to tell an untruth about a serious matter with intent to deceive someone who has the right to know? Is it grave matter? as in did you break one of th ten commandments intentionally. You don’t know whether it is grave matter, so you can’t freely chose to commit a grave sin in this instance at all. If you did not intend to sin mortally, to lie even though you knew full well it would separate you from life in Christ you did not commit a mortal sin. At most it was a lie that might be venially sinful if the person who gave you the form has a right to know. Probably it is just stupid if the form was for your doctor, who cannot treat you if he does not know your history. If you have not been diagnosed with migraine then you could not truthfully answer the question yes in any case.
 
A mortal sin needs to be a grave matter. This isn’t even close to a grave matter.
 
roseb said:
If filling out a health history and you put “no” for a question of ever having frequent headaches (migraines), when you did have some frequent headaches but never diagnosed with migraines, would this be mortal?
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I don’t think it’s a sin. You have not been officially diagnosed, so if it was an insurance form you were not lying. And besides, if you reported an official diagnosis of migraine on insurance form, your insurance will go up drastically; this happened to me. I paid $100 extra a month just for reporting it, but I had been officially diagnosed and was on medication. However, be careful because if you’ve ever been prescribed any migraine medication (triptans, etc.) then you HAVE been officially diagnosed and should contact the insurance company to change the form.

If it wasn’t an insurance form and just a simple health history form, you’re not sinning by omitting it but I’m not sure why you wouldn’t put it down. I suffered for over 20 years before ever getting help, and I can tell you that I thank God for my medication every time I have a migraine attack. It is truly a blessing, and if you have frequent migraines I would encourage you to seek medical help for it.
 
  1. No Mortal Sin committed.
  2. God is not a tyrant.
  3. Mortal sin: grave matter, full knowledge, full consent.
  4. Your sin is not grave, no full knowledge, no full consent.
  5. Perplexed conscience is an overwhelmed, doubting conscience.
  6. It might not even qualify for an imperfection.
  7. Scrupulous conscience is not formed conscience.
  8. You must work toward forming an exact, true, not erring conscience.
  9. Growing in the Knowledge of the God’s Law, natural law, and human law produces a true conscience.
  10. Frequent reception of the Sacrament helps in forming and shaping conscience.
  11. Spiritual advisor or “mature spirit” helps forming a good conscience.
  12. Frequent confession keeps the conscience clean.
  13. Growth in the love towards God is an ongoing process.
  14. The more you love God the more delicate and true conscience will be.
  15. Temptation from the demons: if they can’t get you you to sin they make you tired and torture you with base, idle thoughts, especially if you are scrupulous.
  16. With continues prayer (charity) you will obtain the gifts of knowledge, understanding and illumination regarding yourself and spirituality.
  17. Don’t give up.
 
didn’t really seem like you even lied, because having some headaches is different than migraines.
 
roseb said:
If filling out a health history and you put “no” for a question of ever having frequent headaches (migraines), when you did have some frequent headaches but never diagnosed with migraines, would this be mortal?
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No.
They are asking the question to screen out possible problems, and if you know WHY you had headaches in the past and the issue’s resolved, that’s fine. If you are worried there might still be a problem, you might want to tell your doctor…but how on earth would this be a sin? Makes no sense to me…
 
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