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Actually, they still can be. That’s good because it’s similar to Australia, nevertheless.

**Scenario 1) **

Lets say they overpaid me by $2,000.00

I put an income of $22,000.00 and the tax rate is lets say 1% and withholding is 3%, come tax time, they will have withheld $660.00 and I will pay $220.00 in tax, receiving $440.00 back at tax time.

Therefore total after tax is $22,000.00 - $220.00 = $21,780.00

Now I lump sum pay them $2,000.00 to balance their books.

$21,780.00 - $2,000.00 = $19,780.00

Total = $19,780.00

Scenario 2)


No overpayment.

I’m paid 20,000.00, where they withhold 3% over the year being $600.00 and then come tax time, I pay 1% in tax being $200.00 and get $400.00 back.

Therefore total after tax is $20,000.00 - $200.00 = $19,800.00

Total = $19,800.00

See the discrepancies? balancing their books with a lump sum payment meant I paid $20.00 extra in tax then I should have and that’s just with tax, then you would have to work it out in regards to your retirement thing which may or may not work out in your favor. it’s never a good idea to balance the books with a lump sum payment in matters like this, because there are other calculations involved, it’s not a simple stand alone over-payment in which a lump sum payment would work.

I hope this has helped

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh
Well, I’m not actually paying them back though. They simply aren’t paying me my last check, so the total amount of money will be the same and the taxes withheld will be the same as well.
 
Well, I’m not actually paying them back though. They simply aren’t paying me my last check, so the total amount of money will be the same and the taxes withheld will be the same as well.
Oh right, my bad, that should work then, but so should deducting it from your pay over the course of the next year too, just as easy.

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
I’d be mad too. Sorry you are having to deal with this disappointment.
 
I have been overpaid and underpaid and when I was overpaid they got their money pretty quickly…like the next check. But when I was underpaid it took forever for them to make up the difference lol.

Always keep track of your salary.
That was my immediate reaction too; surely you knew you were being overpaid?
 
So, I don’t really know why I’m posting this. I don’t really need advice or anything. But I’m really, really MAD about it and I can’t complain at work, or on facebook, so I figured I’d complain to you and I’d really appreciate it if you told me I was completely justified in my anger.

So, here is the situation. I am a teacher and I am paid every two weeks, except for the last five payments of the year, which are dolled out at once, at the beginning of summer vacation. When my stubs arrived this morning, the last one was missing. When I called HR to inquire about it, I was called back by one of the superintendents and told that I wasn’t getting it because I had been over-paid during the rest of the year.

I went to a meeting with him and it does seem legit that they had been overpaying me around $65 every two weeks and so they are cancelling my last paycheck. This was a mistake caused by the bookkeeper, who put the wrong amount into the computer. The superintendent apologized and the bookkeeper suggesting that I should do summer work so I can pay my mortgage in August. Summer work pays about half of what it would cost to get childcare for my children. Also, my department’s request for pre-approved summer work was declined.

But anyway, this all comes to a $1400 check that we were expecting that isn’t coming. And I’m MAD! This is going to effect our family’s summer plans significantly, and it makes me MAD that we have to tighten the belt and aren’t going to get to do all the stuff we were looking forward to doing because we were forced to take out a loan we never asked for and now have to pay back. I’m also MAD that the superintended, who is paid three times the amount of the average teacher, will be sitting by the pool this summer, wondering why I don’t just do some summer work to make up the difference.

Also, I’m MAD that for a teacher, every move that we make is subjectively scrutinized, from our apparel, to our tone of voice, to our body language, to whether or not we immediately return a phone call made at 5PM at night, to what beverage we choose when we are out to dinner, to how we keep our gradebook, to what rules we make for our own classroom, to whether our classroom is fun enough or too fun, to whether we smile too much, to if we give enough homework, or too much homework, to pretty much everything else imaginable. Every tiny thing we do is considered a massive big deal and the slightest mistake, or even difference of opinion, could be the next story on the evening news. But if the bookkeeper, whose only job is to type numbers into a computer accurately, makes a mistake that significantly impacts me and my family…🤷 Mistakes happen.
yeah, I tried education out for a little while. glad I’m not looking back now. I mean, they basically kicked me out of the program, most likely because of my disability, but that’s a story for another day.

anyways, ask the lord to give you clarity for this situation, I know your summer isn’t going to go according to plan, but maybe you will find something fulfilling to do regardless, I’m sure God could surprise you in that department
 
There were two others.
:eek:
**Go to the Labor Board. **
If two others were also impacted…the school district should make it right or compromise, at least.
As Domer says, they have insurance for this.
 
I have been overpaid and underpaid and when I was overpaid they got their money pretty quickly…like the next check. But when I was underpaid it took forever for them to make up the difference lol.

Always keep track of your salary.
Sort of how the Federal Government runs. If you underpay the taxes, they want the money right then with the tax return. But you have to wait weeks if you pay too much. Of course I understand how that happens, but your statement reminds me of that.

What happened to you also happened to me. I worked for a hospital daily, but also worked in home health for the same organization. When I quit doing home health, they terminated me completely from the hospital --both jobs. But they didn’t terminate me from the schedule. So I went to work unknowingly with no pay. And when they finally cut me a check, it sure was not right away.
 
Also, I’m MAD that for a teacher, every move that we make is subjectively scrutinized, from our apparel, to our tone of voice, to our body language, to whether or not we immediately return a phone call made at 5PM at night, to what beverage we choose when we are out to dinner, to how we keep our gradebook, to what rules we make for our own classroom, to whether our classroom is fun enough or too fun, to whether we smile too much, to if we give enough homework, or too much homework, to pretty much everything else imaginable. Every tiny thing we do is considered a massive big deal and the slightest mistake, or even difference of opinion, could be the next story on the evening news. But if the bookkeeper, whose only job is to type numbers into a computer accurately, makes a mistake that significantly impacts me and my family…🤷 Mistakes happen.
Your anger is righteous and justified. I’m praying to St. Joseph the Worker and the Patron Saint of Families.

I used to take solace in the knowledge that I taught in a union state and was even a site rep, but I have since moved to one that allows me to completely feel your pain in the last paragraph. Perhaps we can take solace in the knowledge that everything comes to light at the Resurrection. At that time, the politicians, voters, administrators, et cetra will see what they have put us through. Of course that’s a double-edged sword for everybody on Earth, but I guess that’s what the virtue of Patience is for.
 
So, I don’t really know why I’m posting this. I don’t really need advice or anything. But I’m really, really MAD about it and I can’t complain at work, or on facebook, so I figured I’d complain to you and I’d really appreciate it if you told me I was completely justified in my anger.

So, here is the situation. I am a teacher and I am paid every two weeks, except for the last five payments of the year, which are dolled out at once, at the beginning of summer vacation. When my stubs arrived this morning, the last one was missing. When I called HR to inquire about it, I was called back by one of the superintendents and told that I wasn’t getting it because I had been over-paid during the rest of the year.

I went to a meeting with him and it does seem legit that they had been overpaying me around $65 every two weeks and so they are cancelling my last paycheck. This was a mistake caused by the bookkeeper, who put the wrong amount into the computer. The superintendent apologized and the bookkeeper suggesting that I should do summer work so I can pay my mortgage in August. Summer work pays about half of what it would cost to get childcare for my children. Also, my department’s request for pre-approved summer work was declined.

But anyway, this all comes to a $1400 check that we were expecting that isn’t coming. And I’m MAD! This is going to effect our family’s summer plans significantly, and it makes me MAD that we have to tighten the belt and aren’t going to get to do all the stuff we were looking forward to doing because we were forced to take out a loan we never asked for and now have to pay back. I’m also MAD that the superintended, who is paid three times the amount of the average teacher, will be sitting by the pool this summer, wondering why I don’t just do some summer work to make up the difference.

Also, I’m MAD that for a teacher, every move that we make is subjectively scrutinized, from our apparel, to our tone of voice, to our body language, to whether or not we immediately return a phone call made at 5PM at night, to what beverage we choose when we are out to dinner, to how we keep our gradebook, to what rules we make for our own classroom, to whether our classroom is fun enough or too fun, to whether we smile too much, to if we give enough homework, or too much homework, to pretty much everything else imaginable. Every tiny thing we do is considered a massive big deal and the slightest mistake, or even difference of opinion, could be the next story on the evening news. But if the bookkeeper, whose only job is to type numbers into a computer accurately, makes a mistake that significantly impacts me and my family…🤷 Mistakes happen.
Your anger is righteous and justified. I’m praying to St. Joseph the Worker and the Patron Saint of Families.

I used to take solace in the knowledge that I taught in a union state and was even a site rep, but I have since moved to one that allows me to completely feel your pain in the last paragraph. Perhaps we can take solace in the knowledge that everything comes to light at the Resurrection. At that time, the politicians, voters, administrators, et cetra will see what they have put us through. Of course that’s a double-edged sword for everybody on Earth, but I guess that’s what the virtue of Patience is for.
 
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That was my immediate reaction too; surely you knew you were being overpaid?

It would require a great deal of research and talking to at least three different offices in order to insure that the amount is exactly correct, and the checks were only off by $60. When I sign my contract, I get a dollar amount for the entire year. That amount changed after the year already started, so I was expecting a difference in pay. However, the new contract wasn’t approved by the board until I had already been teaching the extra class for two weeks, so there was a retroactive amount added in there that was supposed to be spread out amongst the remaining pay checks. (This was actually where the error occurred. The bookkeeper put the new amount in for the whole year, rather than just eleven school days prior to when she was putting it in.) From that amount, tax withholdings and Medicaid tax are removed at a rate that is determined by the state and is not consistent from year to year. Also, my benefits package changed in October, which effects the amount as well. Also, my union dues had been coming directly out from my paycheck and right at the same time this was going on, the state changed the law and made that illegal, so my union dues began coming out of my checking account instead and that amount was returned to my paycheck. So, yeah, the amount looked pretty accurate. This is why they pay a bookkeeper.
 
It would require a great deal of research and talking to at least three different offices in order to insure that the amount is exactly correct, and the checks were only off by $60. When I sign my contract, I get a dollar amount for the entire year. That amount changed after the year already started, so I was expecting a difference in pay. However, the new contract wasn’t approved by the board until I had already been teaching the extra class for two weeks, so there was a retroactive amount added in there that was supposed to be spread out amongst the remaining pay checks. (This was actually where the error occurred. The bookkeeper put the new amount in for the whole year, rather than just eleven school days prior to when she was putting it in.) From that amount, tax withholdings and Medicaid tax are removed at a rate that is determined by the state and is not consistent from year to year. Also, my benefits package changed in October, which effects the amount as well. Also, my union dues had been coming directly out from my paycheck and right at the same time this was going on, the state changed the law and made that illegal, so my union dues began coming out of my checking account instead and that amount was returned to my paycheck. So, yeah, the amount looked pretty accurate. This is why they pay a bookkeeper.
Yeah.
 
So, I don’t really know why I’m posting this. I don’t really need advice or anything. But I’m really, really MAD about it and I can’t complain at work, or on facebook, so I figured I’d complain to you and I’d really appreciate it if you told me I was completely justified in my anger.

So, here is the situation. I am a teacher and I am paid every two weeks, except for the last five payments of the year, which are dolled out at once, at the beginning of summer vacation. When my stubs arrived this morning, the last one was missing. When I called HR to inquire about it, I was called back by one of the superintendents and told that I wasn’t getting it because I had been over-paid during the rest of the year.

I went to a meeting with him and it does seem legit that they had been overpaying me around $65 every two weeks and so they are cancelling my last paycheck. This was a mistake caused by the bookkeeper, who put the wrong amount into the computer. The superintendent apologized and the bookkeeper suggesting that I should do summer work so I can pay my mortgage in August. Summer work pays about half of what it would cost to get childcare for my children. Also, my department’s request for pre-approved summer work was declined.

But anyway, this all comes to a $1400 check that we were expecting that isn’t coming. And I’m MAD! This is going to effect our family’s summer plans significantly, and it makes me MAD that we have to tighten the belt and aren’t going to get to do all the stuff we were looking forward to doing because we were forced to take out a loan we never asked for and now have to pay back. I’m also MAD that the superintended, who is paid three times the amount of the average teacher, will be sitting by the pool this summer, wondering why I don’t just do some summer work to make up the difference.

Also, I’m MAD that for a teacher, every move that we make is subjectively scrutinized, from our apparel, to our tone of voice, to our body language, to whether or not we immediately return a phone call made at 5PM at night, to what beverage we choose when we are out to dinner, to how we keep our gradebook, to what rules we make for our own classroom, to whether our classroom is fun enough or too fun, to whether we smile too much, to if we give enough homework, or too much homework, to pretty much everything else imaginable. Every tiny thing we do is considered a massive big deal and the slightest mistake, or even difference of opinion, could be the next story on the evening news. But if the bookkeeper, whose only job is to type numbers into a computer accurately, makes a mistake that significantly impacts me and my family…🤷 Mistakes happen.
I’d be mad and I’d probably write a letter to the Superintendent, once I had calmed down and could do so civilly, outlining all the things you stated above (except about him/her sitting by the pool this summer). Why should you have to suffer because a bookkeeper made what considering his/her job is a major error? Suggesting that you work over the summer is just wrong!

Also, I’d regularly double check that future checks will be for the correct amount, and I’d do that every year until a new bookkeeper is hired, or you feel confident that the mistake will not be repeated.
 
Something similar happened to me many years ago, for a significantly smaller amount of money. The end of the year came and I needed to write a check for the over payment at Christmas time.

So I can understand your upset. Could you ask to pay them back in installments over the course of the year?
 
Something similar happened to me many years ago, for a significantly smaller amount of money. The end of the year came and I needed to write a check for the over payment at Christmas time.

So I can understand your upset. Could you ask to pay them back in installments over the course of the year?
I did ask for that, but Mr. Allegra felt it was better to pay it off as soon as possible.
 
Look at it another way. You have been getting paid an extra $130 per month and you didn’t even notice? You spent all of that money and didn’t save any? And you are blaming your employer?
That is really not charitable. I don’t know about Florida, but in Canada, taxes are so complicated, a small amount like an extra $65/pay can easily go unnoticed

As the OP stated, it is the bookeepers job to ensure pay is done right. And there should be auditing checks so that a mistake like his is caught within a month, not after a year

To those that suggested the OP ask to have the amount removed a bit at a time next year: No employer will agree to that. There is no guarantee the OP will even return to work so they want to claw back their money ASAP before there is nothing to claw it off of

Angie
 
That is really not charitable. I don’t know about Florida, but in Canada, taxes are so complicated, a small amount like an extra $65/pay can easily go unnoticed

As the OP stated, it is the bookeepers job to ensure pay is done right. And there should be auditing checks so that a mistake like his is caught within a month, not after a year

To those that suggested the OP ask to have the amount removed a bit at a time next year: No employer will agree to that. There is no guarantee the OP will even return to work so they want to claw back their money ASAP before there is nothing to claw it off of

Angie
Actually, they did agree to it. But, I work on a yearly contract which I’ve already signed and they know I will be there.
 
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