Magnificat and LOTH

[Sclare]

First of all, I LOVE Magnificat. Been a subscriber from the beginning and I recommend it wherever I go. So no complaints. Still…

I have compared the Morning and Evening Prayer in Magnificat for multiple days and find no correspondence at all with the Liturgy of the Hours for that day. I’ve checked every single office of the day, and it appears that Magnificat is drawing its reading from an altogether difference source than the LOTH.

Does anyone know WHY they do that, and what source they are pulling from?

 

[JC_Nixon]

I believe that the Magnificat uses the Shorter Christian Prayer format, which is different from the Liturgy of the Hours

 

[CaptCrunch73]

I believe that the Magnificat uses the Shorter Christian Prayer format, which is different from the Liturgy of the Hours

I don’t think this is the case, Shorter Christian Prayer and Christian Prayer both use the 4 week psalter for the LoTH. I haven’t actually seen the 4 vol set of the LoTH I’m pretty sure it’s the same also.

Shorter Christian Prayer has Morning, Evening and Night Prayer plus lyrics. Christian Prayer has everything in Shorter Christian Prayer plus more feast, memorials, hymss and a limited version of the Office of the Readings. The 4 Volume LoTH has the complete office.

 

[puzzleannie]

there is no correspondence

Magnificat makes no attempt to shorten LOTH, but instead provides a psalm, reading, intentions etc in a format convenient for lay persons and those not bound by law to pray LOTH. It is a wonderful introduction to that method of prayer for morning, evening and nighttime. Since they also have the Mass for the actual feast or season, plus additional saints and short readings for each day, you can also get in the habit of meditating on those readings, as in the Office of Readings, but no, they don’t try to copy LOTH

Shorter Christian prayer uses precisely the same psalm cycle as the LOTH and the only difference will be readings and propers for feasts and seasons, as only a sample are included in SSP

 

[Bookcat]

there is no correspondence

Magnificat makes no attempt to shorten LOTH, but instead provides a psalm, reading, intentions etc in a format convenient for lay persons and those not bound by law to pray LOTH. It is a wonderful introduction to that method of prayer for morning, evening and nighttime. Since they also have the Mass for the actual feast or season, plus additional saints and short readings for each day, you can also get in the habit of meditating on those readings, as in the Office of Readings, but no, they don’t try to copy LOTH

Shorter Christian prayer uses precisely the same psalm cycle as the LOTH and the only difference will be readings and propers for feasts and seasons, as only a sample are included in SSP

 

[Mrs_Sally]

I also love the Magnificat, especially the mediations they include for each Mass. I have prayed the LOTH before but find that at this time Magnificat works better for me. My daughter carries her copy to school and reads the Mass readings at lunch–what a great witness. I do the same at work, but I’m not in a cafeteria with 600 other people!

 

[OraLabora]

The “LOTH” in Magnificat is not, in fact, LOTH, and is not liturgical. It is laudable to do it as a private devotion, but it is not liturgy (public prayer of the Church).

Best is to use an approved version like Christian Prayer and only do what one can, such as Morning and Evening prayer. Then you will be participating in the liturgy of the Church.

But as a method to give you a taste for the LOTH, and the practice of praying the pole hours of the day, Magnificat is great. To pray full morning or evening prayer from say Christian Prayer though, would only take a few minutes more each day.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

If you are not bound by law to the LOTH, use the method or source that is most convenient to you. Your focus should be on the praying . Don’t let the mechanics distract you from that. [Offered by one who too easily gets wrapped up in the mechanics.]

 

[OraLabora]

If you are not bound by law to the LOTH, use the method or source that is most convenient to you. Your focus should be on the praying . Don’t let the mechanics distract you from that. [Offered by one who too easily gets wrapped up in the mechanics.]

Which is fine. But if you want to participate in the liturgy of the Church, then you must use an approved version whether you are bound to it or not. Otherwise it is not liturgy even though it is still prayer, but in that case, private prayer not public prayer. There is nothing wrong with just praying, using whatever format works (rosary, Magnificat, etc.), but the Liturgy of the Hours, whether prayed by the faithful or those bound to it, is in fact public liturgy. A Mass cannot be a Mass unless specific regulations are observed, and the LOTH cannot be the LOTH unless specific regulations are observed.

 

[drforjc]

Which is fine. But if you want to participate in the liturgy of the Church, then you must use an approved version whether you are bound to it or not. Otherwise it is not liturgy even though it is still prayer, but in that case, private prayer not public prayer. There is nothing wrong with just praying, using whatever format works (rosary, Magnificat, etc.), but the Liturgy of the Hours, whether prayed by the faithful or those bound to it, is in fact public liturgy. A Mass cannot be a Mass unless specific regulations are observed, and the LOTH cannot be the LOTH unless specific regulations are observed.

Agree. The “I’m not canonically bound” argument is an excuse not to use the official Liturgy of the Church.

 

[FatHead]

Agree. The “I’m not canonically bound” argument is an excuse not to use the official Liturgy of the Church.

especially if its very easy to pray the official liturgy of the church

seriously, SCP is less than $13, and no bigger than a magnificat.

i dont buy the “I’m not canonically bound” argument, especially when you are doing something almost exactly the same as the offical prayer of the church