Major scandal; Now proven that the entire global warming threat is based on fabricated data

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UN Security Stops Journalist’s Questions About ClimateGate

(Be sure to watch the short video clip):

View article here.

This is how it was presented in a different article from the stanfordreview website.
Hiyas:)

Thanks for the link.
I read the article and agree that everyone deserves respect.
I also understand the frustration The Journalist has with getting truth from these people at COP15.

You see, that is one of the biggest problems… IPCC…CRU…have, radically in some cases, suppressed all that challenge.

Why do you suppose they did so?

Could it be that they are invested in selling a product?

Because the UN has politicized itself…do you think it’s reputation is at the best shaky?
 
E-mails stolen from climate scientists show they stonewalled skeptics and discussed hiding data — but the messages don’t support claims that the science of global warming was faked, according to an exhaustive review by The Associated Press.
Yes. At the very least, these scientists should be condemned for the ways they hid and prevented the release of data. Makes you wonder why they felt the need to do so in the first place.

Is the AP going to analyze all of the other leaked stuff? The article says only the emails were looked at for this article.
 
Yes. At the very least, these scientists should be condemned for the ways they hid and prevented the release of data. Makes you wonder why they felt the need to do so in the first place.

Is the AP going to analyze all of the other leaked stuff? The article says only the emails were looked at for this article.
I don’t know if anyone has decided to check out one of the websites that I suggested. The fact is that in running climatic models the IPCC has consistently discarded results that show there is no evidence of AGW. It’s like saying…

Well…55% of the data confirms global warming. We’ll take the majority and ignore a significant minority. They’ll give us more money for more research. Next time data is …53% for AGW 47% against. Hmmm…that’s means there is still evidence for AGW. Oh wow…next time it’s reversed. We better ignore those results as a fluke. Let’s get more research money and see what we can come up with. In the mean time…let’s make sure the media doesn’t know that there is no correlation between the increase in atmospheric CO2 and GW. And let’s be sure that we don’t tell them about the glaciers that are growing in Alaska…Asia…and Africa. That would really mess things up for us.

Statistics don’t lie…but liers use statistics. And let’s not forget…There’s a fool born every minute.
 
Yes. At the very least, these scientists should be condemned for the ways they hid and prevented the release of data. Makes you wonder why they felt the need to do so in the first place.

Is the AP going to analyze all of the other leaked stuff? The article says only the emails were looked at for this article.
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icecap.us/index.php/go/political-climate

icecap.us/index.php/go/in-the-news

The last link is classic when dealing with Gore-fascists

Look for me…I’m in this next one 😃 👍

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/experts
 
Oh…And how do they know that sea surface temperatures are warmer today than 100 years ago? How did they know that it was cooler? Ahhhhhh…they must have been dragging infant fever thermometers behind sailing ships. :snowing:
 
There’s where we should be focusing. Being better stewards of God’s creation.
Absolutely correct, but we must make sure that being better stewards doesn’t also morph into the big lie of not using the environment.

I like to remember the Parable of the Ten Talents on this one. The one who failed to use God’s gift in order to preserve it was the one who was chastized.

Conservation is wise use. Preservation is none use.
 
Absolutely correct, but we must make sure that being better stewards doesn’t also morph into the big lie of not using the environment.

I like to remember the Parable of the Ten Talents on this one. The one who failed to use God’s gift in order to preserve it was the one who was chastized.

Conservation is wise use. Preservation is none use.
Don…we are in the same church and pew. While AGW is a criminal hoax against the people…I do not believe that we can continue to misuse God’s creation as we have. It is truly sinful. We have abused and misused His gift to us. BUT…there is no GW. I’m not sure how to get people to check out the links that I have provided. Especially www.icecap.us.

God Bless my friend
Steve
 
The entire man-made global warming threat is based on fabricated, cherry picked, data.

This is the worst science scandal in history.

But, finally, the information is available…

The falsehood of proxy data has been finally revealed but it needs to be given the widest discussion and dissemination.
LONDON - E-mails stolen from climate scientists show they stonewalled skeptics and discussed hiding data — but the messages don’t support claims that the science of global warming was faked, according to an exhaustive review by The Associated Press.
The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP show that scientists harbored private doubts, however slight and fleeting, even as they told the world they were certain about climate change. However, the exchanges don’t undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions.
Well, I guess not the “worst science scandal in history”. But it is an excellent example of uninformed and narrow minded people jumping to conclusions based on incomplete and skewed information.

Let’s count up how many stones were thrown here…my, my, my…looks like a lot.

What did Jesus say about that? Oh yes, that you will be judged by how you judge others, and that we want to be treated as we treat others.

Lesson: Think before you speak. Don’t jump to conclusions. And certainly never, ever be the one to cast the first stone! Nor the second, or third, or fourth…
 
Well, I guess not the “worst science scandal in history”. But it is an excellent example of uninformed and narrow minded people jumping to conclusions based on incomplete and skewed information.

Let’s count up how many stones were thrown here…my, my, my…looks like a lot.

What did Jesus say about that? Oh yes, that you will be judged by how you judge others, and that we want to be treated as we treat others.

Lesson: Think before you speak. Don’t jump to conclusions. And certainly never, ever be the one to cast the first stone! Nor the second, or third, or fourth…
Conclusion jumping could be an Olympic sport! I find it so disturbing that - as you point out using the ENTIRE information (The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP show that scientists harbored private doubts, however slight and fleeting, even as they told the world they were certain about climate change. However, the exchanges don’t undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions.) that those who would abandon action have grabbed this, inflated it, put spotlights on it, BECAUSE it either confirms what they believe - or worse, like the Saudi’s see it as a way to hold off change that will cost them money. As the leaders in our Church keep pointing out about this issue the POOR will be the first and most impacted by the effects of climate change - THEREFORE we - as the people of God - need to speak for them and take personal and collective action!
 
Conclusion jumping could be an Olympic sport! I find it so disturbing that - as you point out using the ENTIRE information (The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP show that scientists harbored private doubts, however slight and fleeting, even as they told the world they were certain about climate change. However, the exchanges don’t undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions.) that those who would abandon action have grabbed this, inflated it, put spotlights on it, BECAUSE it either confirms what they believe - or worse, like the Saudi’s see it as a way to hold off change that will cost them money. As the leaders in our Church keep pointing out about this issue the POOR will be the first and most impacted by the effects of climate change - THEREFORE we - as the people of God - need to speak for them and take personal and collective action!
Wow…I cannot believe how misinformed AGW folks are. I’ll bet that not a SINGLE one of you has had the interest (perhaps courage) to check and read that you are in a small minority of money hungry scientists.

I’m baffled and saddened. Of the HUNDREDS of meteorologists and climatologists that I know personally…only one staunchly defends AGW.

Have you checked www.icecap.us to get the scientific opinion of more than 66% of meteorologists and climatologists that see no evidince of AGW. I don’t include actors and politicians of being scientists since as a scientist I don’t include myself as an actor or politician.

Now…if scientists and the public would only take the time…they would have to face an inconvenient truth about this AGW lie.
 
Stand back and look at the big picture.

The Progressives who have infiltrated our institutions seek to use this man-made global warming hoax to impose totalitarian control of the entire world. Read Diane Francis in the National Post. Read Li Xing in the China Daily. In addition to dictating what you drive, eat, wear, and make your home, they want to forbid you to have more than one child. They seek global population control. Have the cosseted scientists at the CRU falsified data? Yes, and destroyed raw data. Have they intimidated and marginalized scientists who hold opposing views? Yes, just ask Dr. S. Fred Singer and others. Are they a single-issue cabal or part of a larger movement? I think the latter. The progressive intelligentsia thinks there are too many people in the world. If carbon, the very stuff of life, is demonized and rationed, they will be able to reduce the population of the world. We see, in radical environmentalism, the persistence of the evil impulse, as mirrored back through time. We see it reflected by Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Fascism, the French Revolution and every other anti-Christian movement in history. The Truth will make us free but lies will enslave us.
 
**The CIA’s ‘global cooling’ files
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     The threat of a new ice age loomed so large in 1974 that American intelligence collated a report on the likely effects. Maurizio Morabito unearthed it
 
 
                        

                      A high-priority government report warns of climate change that will lead to floods and starvation. ‘Leading climatologists’ speak of a ‘detrimental global climatic change’, threatening ‘the stability of most nations’. The scenario is eerily familiar although the document — never made public before — dates from 1974. But here’s the difference: it was written to respond to the threat of global cooling, not warming. And yes, it even mentions a ‘consensus’ among scientists.
‘A Study of Climatological Research as it Pertains to Intelligence Problems’, written by the CIA for ‘internal planning purposes’ in August 1974, goes a little way towards explaining why some people over a certain age experience a sense of déjà-vu when climate change is mentioned; in the mid-1970s there really was a lot of scientific discussion about global cooling. With the benefit of hindsight, reading it makes one feel wry and embarrassed. So many of the terms bandied about 35 years ago are still being employed by today’s fear-mongers, about the very opposite phenomenon.
It is as if climate scares had to follow a set pattern. Back in 1974 the usual disasters were projected: the ‘new climatic era’ was said to be bringing famine, starvation, refugee crises, floods, droughts, crop and monsoon failures, and all sorts of extreme weather phenomena. The Sahara would expand. World grain reserves, already at less than a month’s supply, would be depleted. A list of past civilisations brought down by ‘major and minor’ cooling episodes was given, which included the Indus, Hittites, Mycenaean, and the Mali empire of Africa. Any possible benefits to climate change were barely mentioned.
The threat of a new ice age loomed so large in 1974 that American intelligence collated a report on the likely effects. Maurizio Morabito unearthed it
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          	 	  More parallels can be drawn. According to the CIA report, in 1974 climate science was developing ‘a successful climatic prediction model’, as indeed it still is. Government intervention had brought together eminent scientists who had previously been at odds with each other then had established a ‘scientific consensus’ on ‘global climate change’. The scientists claimed this pattern of cooling would cause ‘major economic problems around the world’. Dealing with this would, of course, require the creation of several new government agencies. The media at the time seized on all of this, just as it is doing now. Newsweek and the New York Times described the global cooling threat.
How is it that the parallels between that 1970s panic and today’s have been so little remarked upon? And it doesn’t stop there. There have even been recent attempts to label the ‘global cooling consensus’ a ‘myth’, most notably in a well-publicised article by Thomas C. Peterson, William M. Connolley, and John Fleck published by the American Meteorological Society in September 2008.
Well, plus ça change. It’s easy to miss what you do not look for. Mentions of a global cooling consensus appear as far back as 1961. I found the CIA report referred to in a 1976 newspaper article and was doubly amazed to discover it was available as a microfiche in the British Library.
So what would have prompted the CIA to compile such a dossier? The most likely explanation is what it describes as the loss of ‘a significant portion’ of the USSR’s winter wheat crop in 1972. The harvest was so poor that the CIA saw geopolitical ramifications. Its report says that ‘the politics of food’ is a complex business, which cannot be understood by ‘existing analytical tools’. So to address a political problem, they asked scientists to come up with a solution. Precisely the same thing is happening today. One might almost conclude that, in the world of climatology, theories are made to order.
Or is the problem with the general public, who cannot talk about climate except in doom-laden terms, and for whom the sky is the last animist god? This might be the most important lesson of the 1974 report on global cooling: that we need to grow up, separate climatology from fear, and recognise — much as it pains politicians and scientists — that our understanding of how climate changes remains in its infancy.
Maurizio Morabito i
spectator.co.uk/essays/all/5592803/the-cias-global-cooling-files.thtml

CIA Report
climatemonitor.it/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/1974.pdf
 
Ever wonder why you can’t get a balanced view on climate change on Wikipedia?
ICECAP Note Tom Peterson is NOAA NCDC chief alarmist under Tom Karl. Tom engineered the removal of the UHI adjustment in USHCNv2 in 2007.** William Connelly is part of the Real Climate propaganda team and is the prime filter on the climate content of Wikipedia, keeping non AGW information out. Both are key players in the fraud that the emails provided a window into.**
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Stand back and look at the big picture.

The Progressives who have infiltrated our institutions seek to use this man-made global warming hoax to impose totalitarian control of the entire world. Read Diane Francis in the National Post. Read Li Xing in the China Daily. In addition to dictating what you drive, eat, wear, and make your home, they want to forbid you to have more than one child. They seek global population control. Have the cosseted scientists at the CRU falsified data? Yes, and destroyed raw data. Have they intimidated and marginalized scientists who hold opposing views? Yes, just ask Dr. S. Fred Singer and others. Are they a single-issue cabal or part of a larger movement? I think the latter. The progressive intelligentsia thinks there are too many people in the world. If carbon, the very stuff of life, is demonized and rationed, they will be able to reduce the population of the world. We see, in radical environmentalism, the persistence of the evil impulse, as mirrored back through time. We see it reflected by Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Fascism, the French Revolution and every other anti-Christian movement in history. The Truth will make us free but lies will enslave us.
Amen -the naive, and the “useful idiots” ignore this at their own peril. Voluntary euthasia comes to mind.
 
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