Malays can not renounce Islam, court says

[cestusdei]

Edris,
I enjoy how Muslims mention ancient history to describe acts they still commit today. You will be happy to know John Walker got 20 years for aiding terrorists. No death penalty. His crime was NOT leaving Christianity and becoming Muslim, but of fighting against the US with him being still a citizen. We don’t kill people for joining another religion. You do. That’s the point.

 

[Franze]

cestusdei:

Edris,
I enjoy how Muslims mention ancient history to describe acts they still commit today. You will be happy to know John Walker got 20 years for aiding terrorists. No death penalty. His crime was NOT leaving Christianity and becoming Muslim, but of fighting against the US with him being still a citizen. We don’t kill people for joining another religion. You do. That’s the point.

The muslims use relativism to spread islam, violating the islamic principles to spread islam, because the islamic principles are only for muslims. And of course, when some muslim makes something bad,( I am not relativistic), they said, that they´re bad muslims, they judge a lot, forever, but it´s only another falseness.

 

[Hospitaller]

Franze:

The muslims use relativism to spread islam, violating the islamic principles to spread islam, because the islamic principles are only for muslims. And of course, when some muslim makes something bad,( I am not relativistic), they said, that they´re bad muslims, they judge a lot, forever, but it´s only another falseness.

I’ve heard it said that, normally, Muslims aren’t allowed to live in a non-Muslim country. Any truth in this?

 

[StMarkEofE]

Hospitaller:

I’ve heard it said that, normally, Muslims aren’t allowed to live in a non-Muslim country. Any truth in this?

I dont know what the Sh’ria law says but how would Islam be able to evangelize if it werent able to live in a non-muslim country? Plus, it is the belief that Islam has the Allah given right to spead the Quran throughout the world.

StMarkEofE

 

[Franze]

Hospitaller:

I’ve heard it said that, normally, Muslims aren’t allowed to live in a non-Muslim country. Any truth in this?

I don´t know, but in theory, a muslims is sinning when he is working with a christian patron, because muslims are superior and must be the keeper must be muslim. The “unfaithful” don´t have to order muslims but obbey them.

 

[jcaz]

Edris:

**I’ll give you something to reflect on, although I know you don’t have the means.

The words “Kill”, “Killing”, “kill it”, “Kill them” combined are mentioned in Qur’an: 21 times. (This is the total of the four words).

The word “Kill” is mentioned in Bible: 126 times
The word “Killing” is mentioned in Bible: 5 times
The word “Kill them” is mentioned in Bible: 47 times
The word “Kill it” is mentioned in Bible: 65 times**
**Total: 243 **
** And by the way, I excluded in my search the 7 books (Apocrypha) from the Bible. **

nice.

You guys are always so quick to attack, attack, attack. Muslims then give answers to you attacks. We do not avoid the question. Yet, any time we then, AFTER answering you, turn the attack around and remind you of Christian history, you, INSTEAD of responding with a good response, you shout, “Oh, that’s history”.

Amazing.

 

[StMarkEofE]

Edris:

I don’t know about the court thing, that depends on the country, nothing to do with religion.

As for the beheading thing and compulsion in religion. First you’re right there is no compulsion in religion, no one is forced to become a muslim, But the problem is if a muslim wants to quit islam, The death penalty is used only in one case, if he abondoned the Islamic faith when the muslims needed him, like for example in a state of war, or a natural catastrophy, etc. and as I know from the stories about the prophet Muhammad pbuh, that death penalty took place once when a group of muslims “turned against” (and not just quit) their muslim brothers during a war.
And a second time, when a Jewish tribe from Medinah broke a Peace treaty between them and the Muslims, while the muslims were under attack from Infidels of Quraish. After the muslims won the war the Jewish were captured as prisoners, so the Prophet asked one of the Jewish Rabis to decide for their fate, and he decided for the death penalty (the decision was taken by the Jewish themselves).

Thats noooooot tooooo correct. Salman Rushdie who has published two books that show Islam in a less than admirable light had had a death penalty on him for the last 15 years. So, your post does not hold any water.

StMarkEofE

 

[freedom_fighter]

cute2904:

Malaysia is built in islamic state. how could you say you dont know about the court thing. you should know. you smart with our bible, you should be smart with your own rules.

The decision did take by the jewish themselves, I’m sure the choice should be embrace islam or death penalty. no wonder they choose death penalty…

All i can say is…GREAT POST, COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER!!!