I really don’t want to get into this argument. Measles and chicken pox are mild childhood illnesses. We have interfered with the natural order of immunity provided by children getting them and now are suffering the consequences.
I’m not going to dig up stats, but have you considered the death rate of people who don’t get vaccinated?
Measles and chicken pox are not “mild childhood illnesses” for people who already have compromised immune systems. If some child doesn’t get vaccinated, he might get infected and then infect dozens of other people, including elderly people or people with compromised immune systems. For those people, getting the measles or chicken pox could easily be fatal.
Sorry was speaking to @1ke
I’m happy to see what you have to offer. And we’re discussing the privilege we have of living on a first world country with access to clean drinking water, sanitation, and healthcare.
I’m a little skeptical…
Measles, pox, and mumps are classified by Mayo Clinic and the CDC as mild childhood illness. Complications only arise when a child is nutritionally deficient or already sick with influenza. Easily remedied after a week, hence the mildness. Interesting also that children and elderly who are immune compromised are told not to be vaccinated by St Jude’s and John Hopkins, as well as other hospitals since the mmr is a live shedding vaccine. Your claims are overall irrelevant since vaccines are never recommended for those types of individuals, only after they’re well are they recommended.
Of course people with compromised immune systems are not supposed to get vaccinated, and that’s why they rely on everyone else being vaccinated so that the chance they will get infected is reduced.Thorolfr:
Measles, pox, and mumps are classified by Mayo Clinic and the CDC as mild childhood illness. Complications only arise when a child is nutritionally deficient. Easily remedied after a week, hence the mildness. Interesting also that children and elderly who are immune compromised are told not tic be vaccinated by St Jude’s and John Hopkins, as we’ll as other hospitals since the mmr is a live shedding vaccine. Your claims are overall irrelevant since vaccines are never recommended for those types of individuals. Back to the topic of the concerns of morality of injecting other womens abortions into ourselves and kids! Thanks
Vitamin A therapy for measles per WHO
As the article I quote above says, “vitamin A supplementation as an additional treatment of cases of measles in order to prevent death is recommended by some researchers.” There is no evidence that taking Vitamin A will prevent someone from getting measles nor is it likely that most people in a country like the US have a vitamin A deficiency.Thorolfr:
Vitamin A therapy for measles per WHO
Vitamin A therapy reduces the rate and severity of complications, particularly croup, pneumonia and diarrhoea. The duration of hospital stay is reduced in children given supplements of vitamin A.
https://www.who.int/immunization/programmes_systems/interventions/TreatingMeaslesENG300.pdf?ua=1
Many NIH journals confirming also.
Let’s get back to the OPs topic please.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Either way, as stated, these are mild childhood illnesses. They are mild in childhood. We have removed that from the equation. Now the balance is upset. Previously children would be getting measles/chicken pox on a daily basis. Their parents would maintain the immunity they received as children when they had it because they were continually exposed. The vulnerable babies were protected by the immunity passed from a mother who had it and was exposed and through her breastmilk. Now, we have vaccinated children and the immunity from vaccination is wearing off and they are getting it when it IS dangerous. As adults who are pregnant or the elderly who have not maintained immunity through exposure or the babies who do not have immunity through mothers. The danger is not in the children who get it. We no longer have God’s given method of immunity.
I belong to the very dedicated community of Vitamin Angels, who use NIH journals as well as WHO resources to demonstrate how Vitamin A is the primary treatment and prevention method of measles in third world nations. They do amazing groundwork in third world regions. You should hit them up and maybe help donate, if you’re so worried about measles. We aren’t worried, so we will agree to disagree as I have done my research and have printed NIH journals confirming all of this information too.
If measles was so mild in the past before we had vaccines, why is it estimated that between 1855 and 2005, measles killed about 200 million people worldwide? And how did this supposed God given method of immunity work for most Native Americans when Europeans first came to the Americas and brought diseases to which they had no natural immunity? The answer is that most of them were wiped out.
If you examine the graphs from measles and vax introduction, measles declined the most in the US and European regions where nutrition became a focus and living conditions improved. The measles info from the Vital Stats for the US shows that the measles declined without a vaccine, drastically from 1916-1940s. No vax even existed until 1963. God given method of TRUE immunity was from through breastmilk antibodies, which is how the rates declined so quickly with each passing year before vax introduction.
Again, I cannot post links. This is from a PBS article discussing the need for fetal tissue in vaccine research: “Fetal tissue was “absolutely critical” to the development of a potential Ebola vaccine that has shown promise, said Dr. Carrie Wolinetz, an associate director at NIH.”
I’m sure that the 1,044 individuals in 28 states who got measles in the US from January 1 to June 13, 2019 would be relieved to know that you aren’t worried and that all they would have had to do to not get measles would have been to take more vitamin A…:crazy_face: