Manifestations of Pride or Just being human?

[CRATUS]

I have once read that disappointment, standing up for yourself and anger are manifestations of pride. It rubs me the wrong for some reason. Anger is an emotion. Some people are for what reason, like me a prone to react in anger. I may not express it. Internally, things just sometimes hurt me more than the average person. The reason why —I do not know. As for disappointment, sure, you should never expect anything from others, but it still hurts when someone breaks a promise, violates yourself trust, etc. Standing up for yourself—I see how that can be egotistical, I understand Jesus was very humble, there are other ways to resolve problems, as well. Peace is the most important resolution. What about being cowardly and integrity? Like I stated earlier, certain things bother certain people in different ways.

I recently watched the film John Q. A father who does not have medical insurance to cover the cost of his son’s heart surgery. His son has a heart problem. He ended holding on the hospital to force them to operate on his son. Like any parent, he was upset, hurt and did not want to accept his son’s demise. Was that pride for him? I do agree, the health care system is unfair to the poor. He could have simply accepted his son’s death without holding up the hospital.

 

[CRATUS]

Is it pride to feel hurt when someone you like rejects you?

 

[Mintaka]

It sounds like you’ve been reading something interesting. It’s hard to tell exactly what was meant without knowing the book or article.

The idea behind all the stuff you’ve come across – it seems to be that, if you don’t have any particular expectations and assumptions about how life will be, you won’t set yourself up for foolish disappointment or childish anger or defensiveness. And it marks these things as being caused by having too much false pride. (The Seven Deadly Sins version is actually something more like “Arrogance” or “Attitude.”)

OTOH, there are situations where it is proper for us to have expectations. You are supposed to know what is justice and what is injustice. For example, one should expect not to be murdered. If somebody tries to murder you or someone else, it is acceptable to respond with righteous anger; and to fight in self-defense or defense of another. Even if you decided to respond to your own murder by turning the other cheek, you wouldn’t do it by excusing the murderer, but by recognizing the wrong he did (possibly including telling him this is not right and trying to get him to wake up to the evil of his actions), and only then forgiving it. (Well, unless you’re too busy dying. In that case, just forgive first and concentrate on Jesus.)

Furthermore, there’s the Seven Deadly Sins kind of anger (“Wrath”) and there’s the Jesus with the moneychangers kind of anger (“righteous wrath”).

So you should try to accept facts and not beat your fists against stuff that nobody can help, like storms. But you should be ready to make a plan to deal fairly with injustice when you come across it. You should be ready to forgive and forget if that’s needed, too.

 

[Christy_Beth]

I’m no bible scholar, but I know that in one of his letters Paul says, “Be angry, but do not sin.” Anger is an emotion we are given by God. So feeling angry isn’t a sin. It’s what we get angry over or how we handle the anger that causes problems.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Standing up for yourself—I see how that can be egotistical, I understand Jesus was very humble, there are other ways to resolve problems, as well. Peace is the most important resolution. What about being cowardly and integrity? Like I stated earlier, certain things bother certain people in different ways.

For a ‘humble’ man, Christ sure spent a lot of time insulting, criticizing, and calling out the religious authorities of his day. But really? You can’t blame Him. If anything describes a hypocrite, courage and integrity won’t even make the list.

 

[Mystical_Seeker]

Is it pride to feel hurt when someone you like rejects you?

It may not be pride, exactly, but it could indicate that my peace is contingent upon something outside myself, that I cannot control. I may be surprised, but it should just go to show me even more don’t take anything for granted or depend on anything but Christ crucified, for peace. That seems weird because how do we turn bloody violence into peace but that could be another discussion.

 

[CRATUS]

It may not be pride, exactly, but it could indicate that my peace is contingent upon something outside myself, that I cannot control. I may be surprised, but it should just go to show me even more don’t take anything for granted or depend on anything but Christ crucified, for peace. That seems weird because how do we turn bloody violence into peace but that could be another discussion.

Yes. That is difficult.

 

[ready]

Five Effects of Pride:

1. Vainglory
   a. Boasting
   b. Dissimulation/Duplicity
2. Ambition
3. Contempt for others
4. Anger/Revenge/Resentment
5. Stubbornness/Obstinacy.