Many bishops and priests no longer believe in the existence of the devil

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Pontifical University’s Course Will Highlight Perils of Satanism


National Catholic Register, Jan. 16-22, 2005

by EDWARD PENTIN, Register Correspondent

VATICAN CITY — The subtle snares of Satan will soon come under a spotlight when a Vatican university in Rome begins offering a course on Satanism.

The short program, “Exorcism and Prayer of Liberation,” kicks off in February at Regina Apostolorum Pontifical University in response to an increase in cases of devil worship, particularly in Italy.

In Milan earlier this year, two teen-age members of a heavy metal rock band, linked to a sect called the “Beasts of Satan,” killed other band members in a human sacrifice. The gruesome killings followed the murder of a nun by two adolescents obsessed with satanic symbols four years ago in Lombardy.

In a Dec. 9 statement, the university said such tragedies were an “alarm bell to take seriously a problem which is still far too underestimated.”

As many as 5,000 people, three-quarters of them ages 17 to 25, are thought to be members of some 1,000 satanic cults in Italy. The Regina Apostolorum course will give priests and advanced students of theology the opportunity to take a closer look at manifestations of Satanism and the occult in the world of today’s youth, particularly in rock music, magazines, comics, video games and the Internet.

Carlo Climati, a course leader, said Satanism “confuses human, religious and cultural values.” The university program is intended to provide participants with “keys to understanding” how such misguided beliefs are spread, particularly through the media. Climati emphasized that, while they may seem harmless, satanic manifestations in the media can be damaging when “used in the wrong way.”

The curriculum will draw on the latest scientific data on the paranormal and include studies on demonology, the notion of the devil in sacred texts, and the pathology and medical treatment of people suffering from possession.

“The seminar will conclude with the testimony of two exorcists who will explain how to distinguish between someone who is ill and requiring medical care, and one who is ‘possessed by demons,’” Climati said.

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For Legionary Father Thomas Williams, the dean of Regina Apostolorum, it is vital that the course be correctly taught. “(Satanic possession) should be dealt with soberly since such things easily lend themselves to exaggeration and can even become the subject of morbid curiosity,” he cautioned.

For many priests who are experts in the field of exorcism, the program is timely. They argue that in reaction to hysterical excesses in earlier times — such as witch burnings in the Middle Ages — the Church has swung too far in the opposite direction, neglecting the existence of the devil and the paranormal.

According to Rome’s chief exorcist, Father Gabriele Amorth, there has been a significant decrease in effective exorcisms since the Second Vatican Council. Speaking to the Italian magazine L’Espresso earlier this year, Father Amorth suggested there are serious flaws in a new ritual devised by the Vatican from 1990-2000. He added that courses on the subject have been poorly taught in seminaries and noted that large parts of Europe are without exorcists despite Church law stipulating that one be present in every diocese.

A major cause of these problems, Father Amorth said, is that many bishops and priests no longer believe in the existence of the devil. “We are seeing that Satan himself is taking advantage of this, accommodating tolerance to spread his cult ever more broadly, with rituals that often involve the most macabre violence,” he warned.
 
This shocking to be sure, but given the present state of the Church particularily in the west I don’t think it surprises me. There has been a gradual laxing of the sense of the supernatural in the Church and in society at large over the last several decades. And I think the Vatican is just now beginning to grasp the seriousness of it, and it may very well be too late, but I hope and pray not.

If it were me I would reinstate the old rite of exorcism. If bishops won’t provide it or for exorcists period, schismatic groups like the SSPX will.
 
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Catholic29:
This shocking to be sure, but given the present state of the Church particularily in the west I don’t think it surprises me. There has been a gradual laxing of the sense of the supernatural in the Church and in society at large over the last several decades. And I think the Vatican is just now beginning to grasp the seriousness of it, and it may very well be too late, but I hope and pray not.
Too late for what?
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If it were me I would reinstate the old rite of exorcism. If bishops won’t provide it or for exorcists period, schismatic groups like the SSPX will.
Yes, of course, of course…
 
It’s bad because peopel’s lives are complicated tremendously when they feel as if they are under assault but have no one who can help them except an equivalent of a witch doctor form the old country or fortune teller.

Persoanlly, I believe that it is possible for peopel to be oppressed by demons. I am not nullifying the dangerous of mental illnesses too, but the Catholci church is losing much ground in Latin America , Africa, and Asia because the local charismatic gorups take the devil and courses and people who have been influenced by evil very seriously.

Even if you don’t agree that devils and demonic influences exist, you should recognize that the potential for people to believe that such factors danger their lives needs to be addressed with serious concern. People need to be able to talk to clergy who will not laugh at them or call them crazy first and above all.

Even if you don’t believe that fortune tellers and witch doctor type people wield true spiritual power, you can not fail to admit that lives are ruined by the psychological power that such people have over those who feel hopeless and will go into debt for services that they believe might make their life better, when they belive that no one at a Church would be willing to listen to them or that they are too “bad” to seek help from Chistian authorities.
 
The belief in the devil is one of the basic beliefs of Christianity and if Priests and Bishops are denying his existance we are in trouble. Father Corapi has spoken on these things our Pope has performed an exorcism himself.It sounds ilke they all need to be called to Rome for basic faith formation :nope:
 
I was surprised when I spoke to a newly ordained preist and he told me he didn’t believe in the devil. I then met with a retired preist that I very much respect and he told me this is the c **p they’re teaching in the seminary these days.
 
I once heard a speaker claim that there was noarticle of the Catholic Faith that he had not heard denied in some sermon, homily or lecture by a priest. I believe that that can be extended to say that there is no Article of Faith that is not disbelieved by one or more of the clergy.

Remember that Judas was the first dissenting Bishop.:twocents:
 
i have a hard time believing that this person heard an homily that denied the existence of God.
 
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Too late for what?
Too late for the Church to do anything about it, due to a laxing of spirituality and faith in many priests and bishops. Though it is an educated conjecture, it is just as worrisome all the same.

If any priest you know doesn’t believe in the devil or in demonic posession, have him listen to the recording on this page of an attempted Exorcism of a sixteen year old girl in Russia by an Orthodox priest (Requires Windows Media Player). It seems very authentic to me, and be warned as the sounds may be disturbing to some.

Satan rarely attacks people so directly or obviously anymore in the West, as He seems to want to desensitize it to all things supernatural. But He appears to continue posessions and so forth in Eastern Europe, as these predominantly Eastern Orthodox countries are perceived by heavily secularized Western(and Central) Europeaners to be more superstitious and socially backward. The findings of this survey seem to confirm this assumption.
 
If they dont believe, satan has done a good job in decieving them. We have got to be in the last days. :eek: God Bless
 
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