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YHWH_Christ
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But philosophy is amazing to discuss.
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EndTimes
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Thus far… Quantum Mechanics still falls somewhat short… eh?
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Beryllos
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Not really. The basic and well-tested theory, a century old, is accurate and useful. It doesn’t explain everything, but darned close to it.
Don’t confuse quantum mechanics with those fantasy theories like parallel worlds.
Don’t confuse quantum mechanics with those fantasy theories like parallel worlds.
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EndTimes
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I wasn’t…Not really. The basic and well-tested theory, a century old, is accurate and useful. It doesn’t explain everything, but darned close to it.
Don’t confuse quantum mechanics with those fantasy theories like parallel worlds.
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EndTimes
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I was referring to QT and Relativity … differences…Not really. The basic and well-tested theory, a century old, is accurate and useful. It doesn’t explain everything, but darned close to it.
Don’t confuse quantum mechanics with those fantasy theories like parallel worlds.
OF how… QT does not explain everything…
Curious it you accept that this Universe is Discrete.
Limited in Planckian manners ?
That, e.g, infinitesimals exist only in Maths and not in the Physical Realm Itself?
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Vico
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The theory only deals with the material, but a person has an immaterial soul, uniquely suited to its material body. So a particular person could only exist in one verse. MWI may be ruled out once a quantum gravity theory is verified, which is necessary to determine for MWI to have a firm base.MWI basically states that the wavefunction of quantum mechanics exists but that it doesn’t collapse leading to an infinite amount of branching timelines/universes, the laws of physics of course stay the same in all systems. This is considered a materialist interpretation of quantum mechanics and it is one of the more popular interpretations of QM among researchers. It explains how a relativistic universe and a quantum one can exist at the same time. It does solve a lot of the paradoxes in QM too such as Schrodinger’s Cat. How do we reconcile this with our beliefs?
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Beryllos
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Infinitesimals are familiar and comfortable, of course. If some sort of discrete math describes nature in a simpler way, I’m all for it. Even then, however, I would be reluctant to say that nature itself is discrete. We must not assume that nature is just like our mathematical tools.Curious it you accept that this Universe is Discrete.
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AlNg
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That might not be too bad, because even if you were condemned to hell, you could move onto a different branch where you would attain your eternal salvation in heaven?In some branches I would be saved. In others I would be damned.
I prefer the statistical interpretation of QM according to which QM works for an ensemble or a large number of elements. However, QM is not the final theory but may be superseded by a more comprehensive theory because as Prof. Einstein has pointed out: God does not play dice with the universe.
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lelinator
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Quantum suicide may mean that everyone inevitably ends up in heaven.That might not be too bad, because even if you were condemned to hell, you could move onto a different branch where you would attain your eternal salvation in heaven?
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AlNg
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With so many worlds branching out in front of you, you could always step into a better world than the one you were supposed to end up in.Quantum suicide may mean that everyone inevitably ends up in heaven.
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Inquiry
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Even if alternate branches exist, your place in Heaven is not determined by which branch you are on. The reason some branches would end in Hell is the choices that ‘you’ made. Those don’t change even if that ‘you’ jumps to another timeline.
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EndTimes
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It’s been argued… even disagreed with…Infinitesimals are familiar and comfortable, of course. If some sort of discrete math describes nature in a simpler way, I’m all for it. Even then, however, I would be reluctant to say that nature itself is discrete. We must not assume that nature is just like our mathematical tools.
The smallest known measure of Time, Mass, Distance - are Planckian…
Very very very small - yet not Infinitesimal…
There are evidences - not proofs of course.
Assume for a moment in time - that that represents a Discrete Universe…
What might that tell you wrt applying math to theories of Quantum Mechanics?
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AlNg
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But if on another branch you made a different choice, then why could you not go to heaven by staying on the branch where you made the right choice and avoiding the branch leading to hell where you made the wrong choice in the other world. Since there are many worlds, your best bet for an afterlife in heaven, would be to choose the branch in the world which gets you to heaven.The reason some branches would end in Hell is the choices that ‘you’ made.
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AlNg
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You could argue that the Plankian is the smallest known measure so that we could not measure any smaller than that, but that reality is smaller. It is just that humans cannot measure anything smaller, not that reality is not smaller.The smallest known measure of Time, Mass, Distance - are Planckian…
Very very very small - yet not Infinitesimal…
There are evidences - not proofs of course.
Assume for a moment in time - that that represents a Discrete Universe…
What might that tell you wrt applying math to theories of Quantum Mechanics?
Further, it is generally thought that quantum granularity implies violations of Lorentz invariance, although there have been attempts to reconcile the two.
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Inquiry
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Because it’s not a matter of what branch you are on, it is a matter of what you did and whether you maintain a relationship with God. If you swap timelines with another ‘you’ that doesn’t mean you get his relationship with God. God’s going to know what you did. You’re going to know what you did. This doesn’t work from either angle.
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AlNg
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Assume that the MWI of QM is true. (which i don’t think it is):If you swap timelines with another ‘you’ that doesn’t mean you get his relationship with God.
Since reality consists of the same objects in many worlds at the same time, you are not swapping with another you. It is not you that you swap, it is the branch.
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Inquiry
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However it works the swap doesn’t change your relationship with God.
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AlNg
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How do you know that in a different world, things would not be different but they would be exactly the same?However it works the swap doesn’t change your relationship with God.
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Inquiry
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That’s not the issue, the issue is that in any swap that can actually be called a swap you are still the person who made the choices you made; the person who either damaged or maintained your relationship with God.
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AlNg
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But you are not swapping. You are actually in many worlds at once? Is that not the MWI of QM?That’s not the issue, the issue is that in any swap that can actually be called a swap you are still the person who made the choices you made; the person who either damaged or maintained your relationship with God.
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