Marian apparitions and the sex scandal

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Certain radical elements also use Fatima and other unapproved apparitions to prove that the Church today has somehow become heretical. The whole Veronica Lueken business that went on for years was all about that.
It’s rather tiresome.
 
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The Mother of God never speaks in riddles, She has always been quite clear when trying to warn us about the evils that were unfolding in this world. People didn’t listen to Her.
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‘Clear’ would be something like: ‘There is a man in the German army called Adolf Hitler who will do terrible things if people vote him in’. Or: ‘Germany will lose the war, the Russia will become a multi-national communist-led state’. Or even, just to be helpful: ‘here’s the recipe for antibiotics…’. The lack of clarity in the ‘predictions’ is demonstrated by their complete failure to convince significant numbers of people who are not already Catholic.
 
The Marian apparitions have one common thread, obedience to God. That is pretty clear. Even in the OT God rarely, sometimes but rarely, used specific names, dates and places but gave general warnings
 
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Her Son regularly spoke in parables, which many didn’t understand. He had to explain them in private to His apostles. "He who has ears to hear, let him hear!"
 
His predictions, however, of a rapid appearance of the Son of Man within that generation were less than successful.
 
Fine, if you “don’t accept it” then you’re the one making a “riddle” out of what we see as quite clear.

And it’s pointless to have any further discussion with you, because you created a problem and then complain about it.

Now muting thread. Have a nice day.
 
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His predictions, however, of a rapid appearance of the Son of Man within that generation were less than successful.
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Matthew 24:34, one of the verses you are referring to, as explained in the Catholic Haydock Bible commentary: By “generation”, our Saviour does not mean the people that were in existence at that time, but the faithful of his Church; thus says the psalmist: “this is the generation of them that seek the Lord.” Ps. xxiii, v. 6. S. Chrys. hom. lxxvii.

The psalm in reference is 23:6 Douay Rheims bible

So the same as in the psalm Jesus was referring to the faithful who would last until the end of time not necessarily just those alive at the time He said it.
 
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Are there any Marian apparition in the last century that warns us about the church’s sex scandal? I feel that the church has been attacked by surprise. If the church has been warned then the situation would not have been so bad.
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Not that I know of… although I do not pay attention to so-called apparitions.

These sex abuse / rape scandal in the Church has been going on for a long time… dating back to at least 1950… this is not a surprise anymore…it is the product of a corrupted institution and a deep seated pathology related to sexuality
 
Our Lady of Fatima
Our Lady of Akita
Our Lady of La Salette

All very important apparitions.
 
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I can see it as a surprise and due to the previously mentioned problems with clergy (ex. accepting compromises). In other words, it is a chastisement.

Let’s take another example, the church has probably not been vocal enough in the U.S. about Sunday work. The bishops made a compromise on the issue. They failed the church and families. Boom, chastisement.
 
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Let’s take another example, the church has probably not been vocal enough in the U.S. about Sunday work. The bishops made a compromise on the issue. They failed the church and families. Boom, chastisement.
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I want to be clear.

You are presenting a situation where people work on Sunday, God is angered by this and in order to punish us has young people be molested? ? ?
 
Did I say anything about God having young people molested.

The church has not been proven guilty of molesting children to the extent that the media has made it out to be. And, that is a fact.
 
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Could you then explain how you see the crisis as a chastisement?
 
I have avoided speaking on these priestly weaknesses until I saw your thread about Marian Apparitions. These tests for us are all in sacred scripture and do not need to be voiced by Our Lady.
 
I didn’t say that I see it as a chastisement. I said I could see it as a chastisement.

A chastisement is a humiliation.
 
Chastisement is punishment.

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Definition of CHASTISE

to censure severely : castigate; to inflict punishment on (as by whipping); chasten… See the full definition
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