Marian appartion titles?

[nordskoven]

Names are so important that the word “name” is synonymous with power and authority. “In the name of the Father…” means by Abba’s power and authority. Titles denote a unique aspect of this personal power and authority. Jesus Christ’s titles include Wonderful, Counselor, Almighty King and Everlasting Lord. Associating a person with a place is less descriptive, even meager, and was used by the Romans of Jesus as more of a legal monniker in identifying “Jesus of Nazareth” with His title, “King of the Jews.”

When the Virgin Mary appears, she does so under a title that enriches our understanding of her role. Maybe we should forego the pop shorthand of saying, “Our Lady of Fatima” and use her title, “Our Lady of the Rosary.” “I am the Immaculate Conception” is a title that sparked a debate on the Virgin Mary’s ability to claim an absolute “I am…” nature like divinity, God being the great “I Am.” This was resolved by St. Maximillian Kolbe in noting the Blessed Virgin shares spousal unity with divinity, i.e., the Holy Spirit, something we will share with Jesus Christ as Bridegroom when He returns for His Bride, the Church. “Our Lady of Lourdes” isn’t as theologically weighty as “Immaculate Conception.”

Virgin Tecuatlaxupe (Tay-kwat-la-shoo-pay) in the native Nahuatl (Na-wha-tul) means, “She-Who-Drives-Out-the-Stone-Serpent” and that packed a punch for the Aztecs, eight million of whom converted after she left her regal image. This title was elided into the more easily pronounced site of a Spanish apparition, Guadalupe, a perfectly understandable move. Some apparitions are known only by place names, like Knock, where Our Lady didn’t speak in appearing in a tableaux with St. Patrick and St. John as author of the Apocalypse. Banneaux (Ban-oh) and Pontmain were visual only, were they not? Yet in those instances where Our Lady appears giving a title, I want to use that title as most respectful and enlightening. It’s more moving to quote “Our Lady of the Rosary” saying, in her Fatima appearances, “Pray the daily Rosary for peace.”

 

[bpbasilphx]

I don’t see how Virgin Tecuatlaxupe is any better than Our Lady of Guadalupe or Bozhematerguadaluskaya.

Saying simply “Immaculate Conception” will give the immediate impression you’re talking about a dogma, rather than a person.

Referring to these Marian apparition by their geographical locations is the usual convention.

Deal with it.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

. . Maybe we should forego the pop shorthand of saying, “Our Lady of Fatima” and use her title, “Our Lady of the Rosary.” . . .

Note that the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary [October 7] does not refer to Fatima. It was originally named Our Lady of Victory and commemorates the Christian victories at Lepanto [1571] and Belgrade [1716] which were attributed to massive campaigns of praying the rosary.

 

[peary2]

Virgin Tecuatlaxupe (Tay-kwat-la-shoo-pay) in the native Nahuatl (Na-wha-tul) means, “She-Who-Drives-Out-the-Stone-Serpent” and that packed a punch for the Aztecs, eight million of whom converted after she left her regal image. This title was elided into the more easily pronounced site of a Spanish apparition, Guadalupe, a perfectly understandable move. Some apparitions are known only by place names, like Knock, where Our Lady didn’t speak in appearing in a tableaux with St. Patrick and St. John as author of the Apocalypse. Banneaux (Ban-oh) and Pontmain were visual only, were they not? Yet in those instances where Our Lady appears giving a title, I want to use that title as most respectful and enlightening. It’s more moving to quote “Our Lady of the Rosary” saying, in her Fatima appearances, “Pray the daily Rosary for peace.”

Guadalupe is also a river in Spain. I think there is also a town by the same name there. The river was named by the Moors who lived there after they conquered most of Spain. It means “river of the wolf” or “Wolf River.” I guess it was easier to say Guadalupe when the Blessed Mother appeared in Mexico!