Marian Devotion

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Don’t get me wrong. I strong believe Mary played a huge role in salvation and I say the Hail Mary and practice Marian devotion. But some of the wording of the prayers bother me. Could you help me?
 
JB_Brother_4446 said:
Don’t get me wrong. I strong believe Mary played a huge role in salvation and I say the Hail Mary and practice Marian devotion. But some of the wording of the prayers bother me. Could you help me?
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I only made a passing grade in Maryology :o But if you will be specific in your question I will give it a try. Please tell me what wording of which prayer you are speaking of.
 
Dirk_Skene said:
I only made a passing grade in Maryology :o But if you will be specific in your question I will give it a try. Please tell me what wording of which prayer you are speaking of.
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Hail Holy Queen. “Our life, sweetness and hope.” Personally I thought that was God.
 
Try the analysis of Newman’s Letter to Busey or if you have the time read the actual letter. Another spot on book is “The Question of Mary” by Fr Rene Laurentin.

The Church allows for tremendous latitude for devotional practices including Marian devotion. As Newman states on many occasions, many Marian devotions have tended toward corruption and borderline heresy at times.

The bottom line is that, as a Catholic, you are not required to have devotion to Mary and the rest of the saints.

You should simply pray as you can…the Mass is a good place to start and if that’s all you do, you will be a good Catholic
 
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Hail Holy Queen. “Our life, sweetness and hope.” Personally I thought that was God.
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Our Blessed Mother is truly our spiritual mother, given to us by Jesus at the foot of the cross.

Their hearts are one, and that is why she too is our life, sweetness and hope.
If someone invited to my home for dinner, ignored my mother who was present, I would be hurt.

I am aware that some are not true devotees of our Blessed Mother, and have much to learn.

St. Louis Marie de Montfort carefully describes what true devotion to Mary is.
 
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Hail Holy Queen. “Our life, sweetness and hope.” Personally I thought that was God.
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True, no argument there. Please keep in mind she is the woman mentioned in Genesis and the woman crowned with stars in Revelation. That is where we get the “Holy Queen Reference”.

I have not read the other folk’s replies. Before I address the “Our life, sweetness and hope” I will see if others cover that.
 
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St. Louis Marie de Montfort carefully describes what true devotion to Mary is.
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Pope Clement X banned the Marian devotional practices of St Montfort in a papal bull. Fully granted that his recommended practices were rehabilitated. However, St John Paul II taught that Montfort’s teaching as further developed and must be read in accord with the teachings of VII… Which authoritatively changes some of the those beliefs and practices. Either way, we are talking about devotional practices which the Church gives great latitude to the faithful on…meaning devotional practices are personal, not universal and do not require believe by the faithful.

I personally don’t subscribe to Montfort’s method’s, but would never tell someone that they can’t… Just as if someone told me I had to follow his methods, I’d resist with great conviction.
 
godisgood77 said:
Pope Clement X banned the Marian devotional practices of St Montfort in a papal bull. Fully granted that his recommended practices were rehabilitated. However, St John Paul II taught that Montfort’s teaching as further developed and must be read in accord with the teachings of VII… Which authoritatively changes some of the those beliefs and practices. Either way, we are talking about devotional practices which the Church gives great latitude to the faithful on…meaning devotional practices are personal, not universal and do not require believe by the faithful.

I personally don’t subscribe to Montfort’s method’s, but would never tell someone that they can’t… Just as if someone told me I had to follow his methods, I’d resist with great conviction.
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Which “beliefs and practices” were “authoritatively change[d]” by Vatican II?
 
JB_Brother_4446 said:
Hail Holy Queen. “Our life, sweetness and hope.” Personally I thought that was God.
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catholiclane.com/calling-mary-our-life-our-sweetness-and-our-hope/
Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. His Mother, who was chosen by the Eternal Father to be the mother of His Son, was granted certain privileges in her life which allowed her to become the mother of all the living. The privileges granted to Mary allow her to rightly be called our life, our sweetness and our hope. By means of Mary, the Life, par excellence, was brought into the world, allowing all Christians the opportunity to participate in the Divine Life offered by God. Mary is an instrument who leads Christians to the one who is the source of all Life—Jesus; Mary also leads Christians to the sweetness of unity with her Son, and finally, Christians are able to find their ultimate hope fulfilled in Jesus Christ; all is possible through the mediation of Mary. As the celestial moon, Mary reflects Christ, bringing all Christians to the source of all life, sweetness, and hope—He who is the Sun, Jesus Christ.
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