Mark 10:43-45 Further Papcy Proof?

[heisenburg]

More Biblical Proof of Papacy?

Mark 10:43-45

43,44 - Jesus does two important things. 1) He basically reiterates that there is going to be someone in charge. Once again, he is clearly talking about what a person in charge must be like. In this case, Jesus brought it up. If he didnt want somone to be in charge, why even bring it up, and 2) Not only did he talk about someone being the greatest, he gave the Job description… “Whoever shall be the greatest, shall be the servant to all” Once again, this is the job description of the pope.

45 - I know a few of you may feel that jesus is simply saying something to the effect of “Well, he basically saying that if someone wants to be first, he will rebuke them and make them last” But this verse clearly counters that notion. Jesus is the King of all things, yet he ascribes that same “job description” to himself “For the son on man did not come to be served, but to serve and give his life to many”

Anyway… not out looking for this stuff… Just going through a one year bible and they just sort of pop out at me.

Thoughts? Comments?

 

[Lazerlike42]

More Biblical Proof of Papacy?

Mark 10:43-45

43,44 - Jesus does two important things. 1) He basically reiterates that there is going to be someone in charge. Once again, he is clearly talking about what a person in charge must be like. In this case, Jesus brought it up. If he didnt want somone to be in charge, why even bring it up, and 2) Not only did he talk about someone being the greatest, he gave the Job description… “Whoever shall be the greatest, shall be the servant to all” Once again, this is the job description of the pope.

45 - I know a few of you may feel that jesus is simply saying something to the effect of “Well, he basically saying that if someone wants to be first, he will rebuke them and make them last” But this verse clearly counters that notion. Jesus is the King of all things, yet he ascribes that same “job description” to himself “For the son on man did not come to be served, but to serve and give his life to many”

Your points are good. For further insight, look at the similar passage in Luke 22. There, the apostles are fighting over who will be greatest, and Jesus says basically the same thing. he doesn’t say they are all equal, He seems to assume that there is a greatest, and that the job description of that person is that he serves. The very next thing that He does is turn to Peter and the apostles and say, “Simon, Simon, Satan has desire to sift you [plural] like wheat, but I have prayed for you [singular] that your faith may not fail, and when you[singular] are restored, strengthen your brethren.”

In other words, right after Jesus gives the job description of the greatest, He turns to Peter and tells him that He is going to pray for him alone, even though Satan wants them all, and then gives him the command to serve his brethren by strengthening them.

Anyway… not out looking for this stuff… Just going through a one year bible and they just sort of pop out at me.

Thoughts? Comments?

 

[RNRobert]

Your points are good. For further insight, look at the similar passage in Luke 22. There, the apostles are fighting over who will be greatest, and Jesus says basically the same thing. he doesn’t say they are all equal, He seems to assume that there is a greatest, and that the job description of that person is that he serves. The very next thing that He does is turn to Peter and the apostles and say, “Simon, Simon, Satan has desire to sift you [plural] like wheat, but I have prayed for you [singular] that your faith may not fail, and when you[singular] are restored, strengthen your brethren.”

In other words, right after Jesus gives the job description of the greatest, He turns to Peter and tells him that He is going to pray for him alone, even though Satan wants them all, and then gives him the command to serve his brethren by strengthening them.

And what is one of the titles that the Pope uses?

“The Servant of the servants of God”

 

[DaveBj]

Here is the text of those verses, for the benefit of subsequent readers (actually, vv 42-45):

And Jesus called them to him and said to them, “You know that those who are supposed to rule over the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great men exercise authority over them. But it shall not be so among you; but whoever would be great among you must be your servant, and whoever would be first among you must be slave of all. For the Son of man also came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” (RSV)