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Will we know it without a doubt when the mark of the beast is here? Can someone that is Christian take the mark of the beast without realizing it?
Fr. Charles Grondin writes on CAF:Will we know it without a doubt when the mark of the beast is here? Can someone that is Christian take the mark of the beast without realizing it?
The beast symbolizes the various Roman emperors who persecuted the early Christians but mainly is a symbol of Caesar Nero (whose name in Hebrew has the numerical value of 666). The so-called “mark of the beast” is presumed by most scholars to allude to the coins of the Roman Empire that bore the image of the emperor.
No that would be unfair.Can someone that is Christian take the mark of the beast without realizing it?
It happened before with Antiochus in Jerusalem.The scripture says that all will be caused to have the mark and that without it they can’t buy or sell.
IF by Christian,Will we know it without a doubt when the mark of the beast is here? Can someone that is Christian take the mark of the beast without realizing it?
Would you be aware that it was being imposed by the Beast?TheMarriedKnight:![]()
IF by Christian,Will we know it without a doubt when the mark of the beast is here? Can someone that is Christian take the mark of the beast without realizing it?
you mean one who is in some manner spiritually connected with Christ,
then IMO I believe that they/we shall know.
Let’s enter a hypothetical thought experiment:
Let’s say that it comes to pass that as per Revelations…
a ‘mark’ of sorts on hand and/or forehead is needed in order to buy or sell. .
It’s already tecnologically possible …
in fact, RFID implants for this and that already exist… and have been already implanted in some folks.
So… let’s say it arrives and you believe it… and have the option to take or reject it.
Thing is, to reject it - suggests e.g. possibly starving to death… for you… and perhaps those in your care.
Would you have the FAITH to say “No!” ?
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Yes, I’ve read some private revelations that says the Mark of the beast will be microchips in the hand.This will supposedly be implemented by the Antchrist to control world.TheMarriedKnight:![]()
IF by Christian,Will we know it without a doubt when the mark of the beast is here? Can someone that is Christian take the mark of the beast without realizing it?
you mean one who is in some manner spiritually connected with Christ,
then IMO I believe that they/we shall know.
Let’s enter a hypothetical thought experiment:
Let’s say that it comes to pass that as per Revelations…
a ‘mark’ of sorts on hand and/or forehead is needed in order to buy or sell. .
It’s already tecnologically possible …
in fact, RFID implants for this and that already exist… and have been already implanted in some folks.
So… let’s say it arrives and you believe it… and have the option to take or reject it.
Thing is, to reject it - suggests e.g. possibly starving to death… for you… and perhaps those in your care.
Would you have the FAITH to say “No!” ?
_
Yep, and they are going to propose these chips under your skin with the pretence that your Debit /Credit Cards might become lost or stolen .Notice how slowly everyone is becoming a number, SS a #, Birth date a #, ID a #, Passport a #, Credit History a #, Credit Cards a #, TSA Precheck to travel a #, Security Codes for your job, home, protection a #. Kind of crazy huh?
According to some eschatologists, the church will not be here when the beast, and the number of the beast, are revealed. Some believe that during this time before a person accepts Christ, if they ignorantly take the mark because they have never heard the gospel before, but then hear it & accept Christ they cant genuinely repent later. But a genuine believer will never take the mark. Others believe that once you take the mark, there is no going back, because you take it with full knowledge of what it is & the consequences of taking it.Will we know it without a doubt when the mark of the beast is here? Can someone that is Christian take the mark of the beast without realizing it?
Were some agency attempting to impose something to my hand / forehead which is essential for buying or selling - I’ll assume it connects with the AntiChrist and ask questions later?Would you be aware that it was being imposed by the Beast?
I’ve had ashes visible on my forehead multiple hours after an Ash Wednesday service.Some years back when we got an anointing on a feast day in an Eastern Rite church there was a person who ended up with an embedded circle on their forehead, like someone pressed a wedding band into their skin. We had some coffee time afterward and it was still there 2 hours later. It was visible to everyone.
I always wondered how this event might be connected to the mark of the beast.
Christ to Peter: You are the Rock, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.According to some eschatologists, the church will not be here when the beast, and the number of the beast, are revealed.
Did you mean can genuinely repent later? Because the idea that someone is barred from repentance because of something they did in ignorance…if they ignorantly take the mark because they have never heard the gospel before, but then hear it & accept Christ they cant genuinely repent later.
Full and emphatic agreement.if you are around & you are offered it, don’t take it!
Of course. lolI’ve had ashes visible on my forehead multiple hours after an ash Wednesday service.
I understand …A lot of these posts seem to embrace the Fundamentalist / “radio preacher” approach to this question that Biblical literalists have been beating the drum about for years. I’ve heard candidates for the “Mark of the Beast” being suggested variously as ZIP codes, bar codes, the “www” that’s part of Internet addresses, and of course Social Security numbers. Personally I think the “Nero” interpretation is the scholarly and correct one. Though on a bad day the whole swamp that is “social media” strikes me as truly evil.