Mark Wahlberg

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Contra_Mundum said:
What about owning guns? Many Catholics in the US think this is perfectly acceptable and not a moral issue.
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There is nothing in the Catechism of the Church that prohibits owning guns. The catechism merely states the state has a duty to regulate the manufacture and sale of arms [2316] Gun ownership is just one of those topics, like whether a particular war is just or not, that we Catholics will just have to agree to disagree on. Unlike, say, abortion or euthanasia.
 
Johann_du_Toit said:
There is nothing in the Catechism of the Church that prohibits owning guns. The catechism merely states the state has a duty to regulate the manufacture and sale of arms [2316] Gun ownership is just one of those topics, like whether a particular war is just or not, that we Catholics will just have to agree to disagree on. Unlike, say, abortion or euthanasia.
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Sure. But the question of whether it is moral to act in a film where they use fake guns is ridiculous to me since many Catholics own real guns and that is not a moral issue. Makes no sense to me.
 
Contra_Mundum said:
Sure. But the question of whether it is moral to act in a film where they use fake guns is ridiculous to me since many Catholics own real guns and that is not a moral issue. Makes no sense to me.
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Its not the guns or the violence in his movies that make me cringe everytime I hear him bring up he being a Catholic. Its the films like Ted and Entourage and supposedly he’s trying to develop a mini series for HBO about the porn industry. Its not just the acting, its the fact that he’s the producer for these movies with suggestive sexual content.

If we’re going to hold it against him for using guns in his movies, then might as well add Jim Cavaziel to mix because Person of Interest has just as many guns as any Mark Wahlberg film does.

I go back and forth on Mark. I love that he talks so openly about attending daily mass, but I hate it when he goes on to talk about how great something like Ted is/was or how Entourage came about. He is quite a contradiction, which most of us are, but most of us also don’t have a microphone in our face. I just wish he would choose projects that were more reflective of his religious practices, and less of the garbage that Hollywood puts out on a daily basis. If he doesn’t want to be a role model, don’t talk so openly about being Catholic and then get upset if someone tries to hold him to a higher standard. Be a witness all the way, not just part of the time.
 
PatriceA said:
Its not the guns or the violence in his movies that make me cringe everytime I hear him bring up he being a Catholic. Its the films like Ted and Entourage and supposedly he’s trying to develop a mini series for HBO about the porn industry. Its not just the acting, its the fact that he’s the producer for these movies with suggestive sexual content.

If we’re going to hold it against him for using guns in his movies, then might as well add Jim Cavaziel to mix because Person of Interest has just as many guns as any Mark Wahlberg film does.

I go back and forth on Mark. I love that he talks so openly about attending daily mass, but I hate it when he goes on to talk about how great something like Ted is/was or how Entourage came about. He is quite a contradiction, which most of us are, but most of us also don’t have a microphone in our face. I just wish he would choose projects that were more reflective of his religious practices, and less of the garbage that Hollywood puts out on a daily basis. If he doesn’t want to be a role model, don’t talk so openly about being Catholic and then get upset if someone tries to hold him to a higher standard. Be a witness all the way, not just part of the time.
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Thank you. That’s pretty much, like, you know, my, like, my thoughts, but I didn’t really, like, get them, you know, sorted out, like, all the way. You know?
 
Deus_tecum said:
I like the action movies he’s been in. I don’t care to see him in raunchy comedy. I first became aware of TED when visiting a young couple’s home where it was blaring on the TV from a bootleg DVD in spite of kids running around as young as 4 years old. The couple is one of those “They can watch what we watch” types. The premise of the movie was stupid, and the comedy low brow. That sort of stuff might be funny in a Southie bar, but its not for me.
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The movie “Ted” committed the ultimate sin for a comedy - it wasn’t funny.

It’s been a few years now, but Walhberg’s movie “Shooter” was highly entertaining.
 
he’s better than his brother Donnie…I was a fan of New Kids on the Block a LONG time ago…but when I heard Donnie got drunk and set fire to a rug at a hotel…I stopped being a fan.

Pray for him and maybe he could get better roles, and have a better faith and say I don’t want to do that kind of role (like Jim Caveziel did…he refuses to do any kind of adult rated r bed scene role because of his marriage vows).
 
PatriceA said:
He is quite a contradiction, which most of us are, but most of us also don’t have a microphone in our face. I just wish he would choose projects that were more reflective of his religious practices, and less of the garbage that Hollywood puts out on a daily basis. If he doesn’t want to be a role model, don’t talk so openly about being Catholic and then get upset if someone tries to hold him to a higher standard. Be a witness all the way, not just part of the time.
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That’s fair enough. It would be better if his choices were in line with his faith and morals, I agree. Hopefully he’ll get there with time.
 
I’ve often wondered this same thing about Marky Mark. Most of his movies I find unwatchable because of all the swearing and violence. I guess he would say that’s merely a reflection of real life, which also contains much swearing and violence …
 
jediliz said:
he’s better than his brother Donnie…I was a fan of New Kids on the Block a LONG time ago…but when I heard Donnie got drunk and set fire to a rug at a hotel…I stopped being a fan.

Pray for him and maybe he could get better roles, and have a better faith and say I don’t want to do that kind of role (like Jim Caveziel did…he refuses to do any kind of adult rated r bed scene role because of his marriage vows).
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Mark is NOT any better than Donnie if you’re going to start to compare their criminal records when they were younger. Mark has a long list of criminal offenses and even spent time in the state prison for assault and was at one time charged with attempted murder.

The point being, anyone can turn their life around for the better. I wouldn’t hold Donnie’s crime against him anymore than I would Mark’s or any other person that is trying to be a decent human being. And I think both of them are trying to be good people, but sometimes to be popular and working in Hollywood you have to compromise your values occasionally and I think Mark gets caught up in all that.
 
I’m curious what these good Catholic movie roles would be like that you would have Mr. Wahlberg choose. If he had only stuck to “good clean roles”, he would only be known as Marky Mark, a kid that had a couple of hits 20+ years ago.

Don’t confuse the roles with the man. He’s just playing a part and I have no problem with that.
 
Brandall said:
I’m curious what these good Catholic movie roles would be like that you would have Mr. Wahlberg choose. If he had only stuck to “good clean roles”, he would only be known as Marky Mark, a kid that had a couple of hits 20+ years ago.

Don’t confuse the roles with the man. He’s just playing a part and I have no problem with that.
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So you don’t recognize the name Jim Cavaziel?

I don’t think anyone said the roles had to be Catholic, by the way. I don’t have a problem with SOME of the parts he’s played. Acting is his job, correct? Why shouldn’t he be held to the same accountability as you and me in our jobs and careers as Catholics? Especially when he is very vocal about being Catholic. Walk the walk, don’t just be a bunch of words.

And I disagree that if he had chosen better roles he would still be known just as Marky Mark. If anything, to me at least, he’s still Marky Mark because he’s still living out the “bad boy” image instead of taking the opporunity to be a better role model in Hollywood.
 
PatriceA said:
So you don’t recognize the name Jim Cavaziel?

I don’t think anyone said the roles had to be Catholic, by the way. I don’t have a problem with SOME of the parts he’s played. Acting is his job, correct? Why shouldn’t he be held to the same accountability as you and me in our jobs and careers as Catholics? Especially when he is very vocal about being Catholic. Walk the walk, don’t just be a bunch of words.

And I disagree that if he had chosen better roles he would still be known just as Marky Mark. If anything, to me at least, he’s still Marky Mark because he’s still living out the “bad boy” image instead of taking the opporunity to be a better role model in Hollywood.
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I just googled Jim Cavaziel. Had never heard of him before. If Mark Wahlberg was what he portrayed, I could better understand the problem. I’ve heard this same complaint over and over regarding different creative people, some famous and some not, regarding how they earned their living.

I googled Mark Wahlberg last night since I wasn’t overly familiar with him. It’s frankly amazing how his life has gone from being a young thug to being famous. More power to him.
 
The long and short of it is, when someone goes into the business of being an an actor, their primary responsibility is becoming a believable character, as set forth by the script. This is the profession that supports his family, and most would say he does his job fairly well, and has become successful doing just that. So, kudos to him for excelling in his chosen profession, as the example there should be–if your are going to dedicate yourself to something, give it your all and try to be the best. As far as I am concerned, as long as he"walks the walk" in his private life, he is being true to himself and his faith. The body of material he puts out portraying fictional characters in the course of doing his job can then be left to each individual’s comfort level with regards to reconciling the content of that work and their faith.

:tiphat:Thanks for your time…
 
There is a new program on A&E called Wahlburgers. The whole family can watch it seriously. They set up hamburger resteraunts.
 
on_the_hill said:
Right.

But isn’t there a point at which a person would/should/could say that a job goes beyond the boundaries of his beliefs?
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Those boundaries are set by each person. We have no moral right to set our boundaries on another. As we grow, those boundaries can change. We are all on our own pilgrimage.
 
pnewton said:
Those boundaries are set by each person. We have no moral right to set our boundaries on another. As we grow, those boundaries can change. We are all on our own pilgrimage.
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There but for the grace of God, Go I.

Most of us are not cursed with having to live our lives under a microscope. For that, I’m grateful.
 
andrewstx said:
There is a new program on A&E called Wahlburgers. The whole family can watch it seriously. They set up hamburger resteraunts.
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For that alone, I’m a fan of Mark and Donnie. I’m a sucker for puns. 😛
 
Brandall said:
I just googled Jim Cavaziel. Had never heard of him before. If Mark Wahlberg was what he portrayed, I could better understand the problem. I’ve heard this same complaint over and over regarding different creative people, some famous and some not, regarding how they earned their living.

I googled Mark Wahlberg last night since I wasn’t overly familiar with him. It’s frankly amazing how his life has gone from being a young thug to being famous. More power to him.
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So being famous is the goal? Rather than being both a good person and (if famous) a good role model? Y’know there are people who manage to combine all of the above - even in Hollywood there are people like Tom Hanks for example.

Remember the criticism heaped by Jesus upon those who cause children to sin? You think innumerable kids haven’t been influenced to imitate the crass and sinful behaviour which many of Wahlberg’s recent efforts seem intent on glamourising (which is a different thing to merely portraying it)
 
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