Maronite Catholic Liturgy Video

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I had never seen a Maronite liturgy before, but it looks a lot like the Roman Rite’s “novus ordo” Mass.
 
Apotheoun said:
I had never seen a Maronite liturgy before, but it looks a lot like the Roman Rite’s “novus ordo” Mass.
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I thought the same thing. I believe that the Maronite Church was never in schism with the Roman Church, maybe this could have something to do with it.

Maybe someone with more expertise can enlgihten us? Thank you.
 
Pius_X said:
I thought the same thing. I believe that the Maronite Church was never in schism with the Roman Church, maybe this could have something to do with it.

Maybe someone with more expertise can enlgihten us? Thank you.
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I’ve spoken to some Maronites who defend their current Liturgy, saying it was always their tradition to face the people.
 
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Ah that is cool. I prefer facing the people.
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Hmmm. Being a Latin, I’ve always found it weird that the Priest would turn his back to the Tabernacle and would be seen to be offering the Sacrifice, not to God, but to the people. Also, the prayers that are said now, are said facing the people, but they’re directed to God…To me it doesn’t make sense, and it gears the Mass in a different way, from concentrating on God, to concentrating on the people. Really its just aesthetically confusing.
 
I have been told by other Maronites that ad orientem was the norm.

It was hard to catch the last prayer of the priest at the altar. It is a noble and moving one that can much to meditate on.
“Remain in peace, O holy altar. Will it be possible for me to return to thee in peace…? …and, being acquitted of my debts, not be confounded when I appear before the throne of Christ, on the Day of Judgement. Remain in peace, O holy altar. I do not know whether I will ever again return to thee, to celebrate the Most Holy Sacrifice.”
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Hmmm. Being a Latin, I’ve always found it weird that the Priest would turn his back to the Tabernacle and would be seen to be offering the Sacrifice, not to God, but to the people. Also, the prayers that are said now, are said facing the people, but they’re directed to God…To me it doesn’t make sense, and it gears the Mass in a different way, from concentrating on God, to concentrating on the people. Really its just aesthetically confusing.
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Yes!!! That is what I feel is weird! That the Tabernacle would be behind him and he would face the people.

Catholig
 
twiztedseraph said:
I’ve spoken to some Maronites who defend their current Liturgy, saying it was always their tradition to face the people.
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Peace,

The Maronites have had their traditions repressed for so long that current practice is often called “tradition.” The fullest tragedy of Latinization, indeed. 😦

No, facing the people is certainly NOT the traditional Maronite practice. This phenomena become such a topic of controversy, Patriarch Cardinal Sfeir declared that the decision is left up to the individual bishops. The similarities to N.O. are many, and for an equal amount of reasons; rather busy, will expand on this later.

Comments on the video also pending, if you wish…

Peace and God Bless.
 
ASimpleSinner said:
I have been told by other Maronites that ad orientem was the norm.

It was hard to catch the last prayer of the priest at the altar. It is a noble and moving one that can much to meditate on.
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Remain in Peace, O alter of of God, and I hope to return to you in peace. May the sacrifice which I have offered upon you forgive my sins, help me to avoid faults, and prepare me to stand blameless before the throne of Christ. I know not whether I will be able to return to you again to offer sacrifice. Guard me, O Lord, and protect Your Holy Church so that she may remain the way of salvation and the light of the world. Amen.

This prayer was adopted at an unknown time, but came to be in response to the mass persecution of my people. A priest or people knew not if they were to live to worship and offer sacrifice at Temple the next week. The will and strength of the Maronite people can be glimpsed here, striving to exist and worship no matter the context nor persecutor. Worthy of meditation indeed, ASimpleSinner.

Peace and God Bless.
 
Hello,

This is in my own backyard. The Liturgy was celebrated at Saint Paul’s Church which is connected to Saint Paul’s Monastery (Paulists). This is not a Maronite Church, they just brought in the Maronites for this one LIturgy.

The Priest, Deacon and Choir are from Saint Maron’s Church. The Priests name is Father Gary George. The Deacon is actually my Deacon from my Church. He is bi-ritual, so he is both at Saint Maron’s and my parish of Our Lady of Mount Carmel. His name is Deacon Joseph Nohra.

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It looks like a hybrid (which I know it truly is) of East and West

I can see remnants of the Entrances, much like there are remnants in the Roman Mass. A curious hybrid of East and West.

And the Choir: Not bad, but NOT in tune with the Organ…

And Yeshua, yes, please, commentary.
 
Since Fr. Jeffery cites St Maron as the patron of the parish, I went looking, and couldn’t find any parishes of St. Maron that are clearly “not Maronite.” I found only one that was questionable, and that by lack of reference data.

So is that really what a Maronite parish looks like? :eek:

It doesn’t match the photos nor descriptions I have seen.

Based upon what I’ve read, that looks REALLY latinized.
 
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Aramis said:
Since Fr. Jeffery cites St Maron as the patron of the parish, I went looking, and couldn’t find any parishes of St. Maron that are clearly “not Maronite.” I found only one that was questionable, and that by lack of reference data.

So is that really what a Maronite parish looks like? :eek:

It doesn’t match the photos nor descriptions I have seen.

Based upon what I’ve read, that looks REALLY latinized.
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If you read my previous post you see that this isn’t the Maronite Parish. This was recorded at Saint Paul’s Church, which is Latin Rite Catholic. Here is a link to Saint Maron’s website: stmaronyoungstown.org/
 
JMJ_coder said:
Hello,

If you read my previous post you see that this isn’t the Maronite Parish. This was recorded at Saint Paul’s Church, which is Latin Rite Catholic. Here is a link to Saint Maron’s website: stmaronyoungstown.org/
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No offense intended, but St. Maron’s looks like a “novus ordo” Latin Church.
 
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