Maronite First Friday's Liturgy

[malphono]

Maybe the maronites like the first friday devotion? Maybe they want to do it of their own free will?

Before this thread veered-off in its “new direction” (and as such it probably should be split), I [post=6916579]mentioned[/post] that this practice is a latinization. What I did not say was that it was forced. It wasn’t. The same is true for a variety of other devotions. It was adopted and adapted by the Maronites, as were the others devotions as well. None (with the exception of the rosary which, BTW, is also used by the Chaldeans, and (whether they want to admit it or not) by some Byzantines and, I believe by the Syro-Malabars) exists in exactly the same form as in the Roman Rite. This is also the case in general with the various latinized devotions in the Chaldean Church. While I’m not a particular fan of any of those devotions, at the same time I don’t rant and rail against them, with one proviso: that they are done as a compliment to our own traditions and in lieu of them.

 

[malphono]

These are all OLDER LATIN CUSTOMS…I mean older then Trent…in the medieval church folks stood for the Eucharistic prayer, received under both species and stood to receive communion, All your own customs. I really doubt the the Easterners here who adhere to and promote keeping to Holy Tradition would be encouraging Latins to give up their own Traditions.

It’s well established that kneeling in the Western Church is a custom that dates to before the Middle Ages. As I see it, the post-conciliar “revival” of such things smacks of antiquarianism which, considering the tendencies of group that created the OF, is not unexpected.

• While the standing posture for the Anaphora in the OF exists in certain places, it is not part of the rubrics. (And given that the rubrics of the OF are rather loosy-goosey in the first place, says quite a bit of itself.) In other (ungrammatical) words, it ain’t there.
• Standing for communion is a “norm” in the US and certain other places, but is not the universal standard. Kneeling is, and that has been made most clear by PP Benedict XVI by example if not by fiat.

 

[malphono]

And the OF has adopted the use of communion in the hand; an Armenian praxis element.

I’ve seen this bandied about before, and I still have no idea where it comes from. As I mentioned in an earlier thread in this forum :

I have no first-hand experience with the Armenians, but the practice, if it exists, seems not to be universal. While no rubric is specified here for the Armenian Catholics, according to this the Armenian Apostolic Church does not.

 

[malphono]

GIR;6933066:

Maybe the maronites like the first friday devotion? Maybe they want to do it of their own free will?

Before this thread veered-off in its “new direction” (and as such it probably should be split), I [post=6916579]mentioned[/post] that this practice is a latinization. What I did not say was that it was forced. It wasn’t. The same is true for a variety of other devotions. It was adopted and adapted by the Maronites, as were the others devotions as well. None (with the exception of the rosary which, BTW, is also used by the Chaldeans, and (whether they want to admit it or not) by some Byzantines and, I believe by the Syro-Malabars) exists in exactly the same form as in the Roman Rite. This is also the case in general with the various latinized devotions in the Chaldean Church. While I’m not a particular fan of any of those devotions, at the same time I don’t rant and rail against them, with one proviso: that they are done as a compliment to our own traditions and NOT in lieu of them.

Duh … I just realized that I elided over a very important word in the last sentence of the the above. (Oh, if only I could type…) Anyway, I added it in red bold caps. The emphasis actually doesn’t hurt.

 

[Nine_Two]

On what basis do you make this claim?

The claim that Western Catholics are supposed to accept Eastern Catholics as full Christians? I would hope I wouldn’t have to show a source on that.

I made no other claims in my post.

 

[Aramis]

The claim that Western Catholics are supposed to accept Eastern Catholics as full Christians? I would hope I wouldn’t have to show a source on that.

I made no other claims in my post.

The various treaties of reunion, plus the VII post conciliar documents, and HH’s writing Orientale Lumen all support your position. Many Latins don’t… unfortunately.