Maronite Mass

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I have a question…

I’ve noticed after the words of consecration the priest says “may the Holy Spirit cause this bread to become the body of Christ our God and may the Holy Spirit cause the mixture of this cup to become the blood of Christ our God”

It’s as if transubstantiation as not yet taken place…can anyone explain?

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That’s because in Eastern liturgies the epiclesis (the calling down of the Holy Spirit) occurs after the institution narrative. The East, as I understand, does not typically attempt to pin down one exact “moment of consecration,” but rather they view the entire anaphora (what we would call the Canon in the West) as consecratory.

-ACEGC
 
That’s because in Eastern liturgies the epiclesis (the calling down of the Holy Spirit) occurs after the institution narrative. The East, as I understand, does not typically attempt to pin down one exact “moment of consecration,” but rather they view the entire anaphora (what we would call the Canon in the West) as consecratory.

-ACEGC
Right on. In the Roman Church the Epiclesis comes before the Words of Institution, implicitly in the Roman Canon (Eucharistic Prayer 1) and explicitly in the other Eucharistic Prayers.

The East is not as scholastic as the West so, as stated, we do not pin down the exact moment.
 
Also remember, the cup contains a mixture of water and wine before the consecration.
 
That’s because in Eastern liturgies the epiclesis (the calling down of the Holy Spirit) occurs after the institution narrative. The East, as I understand, does not typically attempt to pin down one exact “moment of consecration,” but rather they view the entire anaphora (what we would call the Canon in the West) as consecratory.

-ACEGC
There is growing thinking in the Roman Rite, because of the somewhat recent acceptance of the Chaldean-Assyrian Rite which has no actual words of consecration, that it is the entire Canon that is necessary for the validity of the liturgy. It makes sense, if only to respond to those who think only the words of institution are necessary to validly consecrate and the rest of the canon can be skipped or adlibbed.
 
That’s because in Eastern liturgies the epiclesis (the calling down of the Holy Spirit) occurs after the institution narrative. The East, as I understand, does not typically attempt to pin down one exact “moment of consecration,” but rather they view the entire anaphora (what we would call the Canon in the West) as consecratory.

-ACEGC
That’s exactly right 👍
 
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