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ImmaculataFides
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Get off your prideful high-horse and be a little bit more humble.#1 - he doesn’t know the difference between Rite and Church and used them interchangably. He said there are about 2 dozen Rites where in fact there are only 6. There are nearly 2 dozen Churches in the Catholic Church.
He’s simply not using Vatican II ecclesiology, but sticking with pre-Conciliar ecclesiology. Many people do this because Vatican II ecclesiology is confusing.
#2 - the Maronites did have a Liturgical reform
He didn’t say they didn’t.
#3 - he keeps railing against loss of Catholic identity in the Latin Rite, as if the Eastern Catholic Churches are not suffering a loss of their own identity through Latinizations. He speaks as if the Maronite Church were unchanged from their founding. Not true, even other Churches following other Rites among Eastern Catholics, there have been a lot of changes, mostly Latinizaitions. He says the Maronites have been spared from the abuses that have swept the Latin Rite Church. While in a sense this is true when you think about specific abuses, again every Eastern Rite has their own “abuses” that has resulted in a loss of our own identity.
Nothing but a bunch of assumptions on your part. What did Michael Voris say? He said that the huge loss of identity because of rampant liturgical abuses is not present in the Maronite churches. You are attacking your own mis-representation of what he meant.
#4 - he speaks as if Eastern parishes aren’t suffering a loss of membership of its members through secularization.
Again, an assumption on your part. This is entirely irrelevant. He is talking about Australia, where the amount of Maronites is increasing along with Mass attendance.
#5 - his play on numbers are misleading. Eastern parishes are generally small and therefore numbers can jump up significantly when talking about percentages.
Again, this has nothing to do with him being ‘wrong’. You’re simply making a generalization.
#6 - hasty generalizations. His sample size is the one parish he visited and he speaks as if it applies to the entire Maronite Church. It can be misleading. If he went to the Ukrainian Church and saw St Elias, he would think it is a young, vibrant and very traditional Church. But there are many parishes out there where it is heavily Latinized, not many young people, and only a handful of regular people are there every Sunday.
**The irony. Do you have any proof to back that accusation up? He doesn’t list his source on the video. You yourself have simply made another accusation against him based on an assumption. **
By the way, I watched the video again. It seems they fixed the >14%
Peace be with you.