Maronite Monks of Adoration

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Has anyone been to their monastery: www.maronitemonks.org

I’m thinking of making a retreat and would be interested in anyone’s experience there.

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Anthony
 
Dale_M said:
I haven’t been there, but here is a video which gives a look inside:
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I visited this monastery a few years ago…I’m sure the monks there are very holy…but there was nothing really Maronite about the place…everything was geared to Eucharistic adoration a very Latin thing…there were no Maronite members of the community…when I was there most of the community were Filipinos…with a very Western outlook. Just my :twocents:
 
Thanks for the (name removed by moderator)ut. I’m surprised there are no actual Maronites there. Did they celebrate the Maronite Liturgy when you were there or the Roman Mass?
ciero said:
I visited this monastery a few years ago…I’m sure the monks there are very holy…but there was nothing really Maronite about the place…everything was geared to Eucharistic adoration a very Latin thing…there were no Maronite members of the community…when I was there most of the community were Filipinos…with a very Western outlook. Just my :twocents:
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AnthonyJ said:
Thanks for the (name removed by moderator)ut. I’m surprised there are no actual Maronites there. Did they celebrate the Maronite Liturgy when you were there or the Roman Mass?
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They served the Maronite Liturgy with Latinizations…looked nothing like the Maronite Liturgies I have attended in the Lebanon.
 
I think this is a beautiful example of breathing with both lungs. The West has gained beautiful eastern traditions like the Jesus Prayer, and the East has gained wonderful traditions like Eucharistic Adoration.

Any unapproved liturgical abuses/latinizations must be avoided, and the intergrity of the Liturgy should be maintained but private devotions and paraliturgical rites should be freely shared.
 
smad0142 said:
I think this is a beautiful example of breathing with both lungs. The West has gained beautiful eastern traditions like the Jesus Prayer, and the East has gained wonderful traditions like Eucharistic Adoration.

Any unapproved liturgical abuses/latinizations must be avoided, and the intergrity of the Liturgy should be maintained but private devotions and paraliturgical rites should be freely shared.
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I couldn’t disagree more…if you can’t find an authentic expression of a particular Rite in a monastery where can you expect to find it? If I want Eucharistic adoration I can go to the Latin church…if I want the Jesus prayer or an Acathist I can go to a Byzantine church. There is no need to mix anything of the traditions. What is this saying to our Orthodox brothers? Reunion = a loss of your traditions, or your authentic traditions will be replaced by Latin ones. :mad: There is no room for this in the church!
 
When did I say make any of this obligatory? I think it is beautiful to share small “t” traditions. If a group doesn’t want to partake in other small t traditions from the various other Churches (East or West) that is fine. But if the fact that certain EC want to adore Christ is a stumbling block to the Orthodox, then that is to bad for them. I don’t think Christ would condemn EC practicing Adoration, after all Mary in her adoration had the better part than Martha and her working.

Once again I think the Liturgy and Sacraments should remain pure to the traditions and free of abuses. But private and paraliturgical devotions should be shared and used when spiritually beneficial. Or are keeping our small t traditions more important than utilizing every available means of spiritual growth when appropriate or desired?
 
And ciero you do realize that when you said there is no room for this in the Church, another way of saying that is that there is no room in the Eastern Churches for spending time before Christ enthroned in a Monstrance because a different group of Christians came up with this idea.
 
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And ciero you do realize that when you said there is no room for this in the Church, another way of saying that is that there is no room in the Eastern Churches for spending time before Christ enthroned in a Monstrance because a different group of Christians came up with this idea.
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Yes Smad I knew full well what I was saying and stand behind it. Even our Roan overlords tell us not to mix traditions. Liturgical or not…no hybrids! There is no place in the church for this! At all!! :mad:
 
Roman overloads, you mean the Vicar of Christ? Yes, what an oppressive gift Christ gave the world when He gave us the Pope.

And maybe you’d like to spend some time in Adoration and tell Our Lord that you don’t think worshipping Him Exposed really belongs in the Church. That’s a conversation this EC will never have.
 
smad0142 said:
Roman overloads, you mean the Vicar of Christ? Yes, what an oppressive gift Christ gave the world when He gave us the Pope.

And maybe you’d like to spend some time in Adoration and tell Our Lord that you don’t think worshipping Him Exposed really belongs in the Church. That’s a conversation this EC will never have.
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Maybe someday I could be a good Roman Catholic like you!

There is NO place in Eastern Christianity for Latin practice! No place whatsoever…if you want Latin practice go to a Latin church…not to difficult is it? 🤷
 
Ciero just because I am not obsessed with small t traditions like you does not make me Roman Catholic. Spending time with Christ Exposed should not be just a Latin thing, it should be a Christian thing. It is a tradition that has no parallel in the Christian East, and we shouldn’t avoid it because we didn’t come up with it.

I know this might shock you but I also have devotion to the Sacred Heart and the Rosary. When Our Lord and Lady appeared and asked people to have these devotions, they did not say it was only for Latin Catholics. These devotions were established for all Christians, and I will not ignore these wonderful spiritual gifts because some people care more for small t traditions then with being open to legitimate Christian practices wherever they come from.

And once again I am not saying these should be forced on anyone. I think if an EC Priest wants to have Adoration fine, if he doesn’t fine. We need to be open to the full breadth of Catholicism, East and West. That’s all.
 
smad0142 said:
Ciero just because I am not obsessed with small t traditions like you does not make me Roman Catholic. Spending time with Christ Exposed should not be just a Latin thing, it should be a Christian thing. It is a tradition that has no parallel in the Christian East, and we shouldn’t avoid it because we didn’t come up with it.

I know this might shock you but I also have devotion to the Sacred Heart and the Rosary. When Our Lord and Lady appeared and asked people to have these devotions, they did not say it was only for Latin Catholics. These devotions were established for all Christians, and I will not ignore these wonderful spiritual gifts because some people care more for small t traditions then with being open to legitimate Christian practices wherever they come from.

And once again I am not saying these should be forced on anyone. I think if an EC Priest wants to have Adoration fine, if he doesn’t fine. We need to be open to the full breadth of Catholicism, East and West. That’s all.
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I thank God that this mentality is dieing out in the Eastern church! It is a horrible attitude. I have no problem with Latin devotions or Latin traditions in the LATIN church…that is where they belong. They have no place in the Eastern church…none whatsoever!

So I take it you would advocate for a hybrid church…pick and choose what you like from any tradition and just do it? Not a very healthy attitude.
 
I have been explicit that I would not want any tampering with the Rites and Litrugies of the Church. Private devotions do no belong to any one Church or spirituality; an EC or RC can share from the East and West without there being hybrids.

And I am not so sure as you that these ideas are dying out. Young EC and RC are open to being mutually enriched by each others spiritualities. And I think I can speak for the youth confidently, because I gurantee I am one of the youngest members on this forum.

And as for this being an unhealthy attitude, which one of us is in a tizzy?

May God bless you. 👍
 
This thread is a hoot and a half. 😦 (And no, I didn’t make a mistake and use the wrong smiley.)

I’ve no personal experience with the community mentioned in the thread title, but I have a LOT of experience with things Maronite and Oriental (and, by extension, Eastern) in general. I’ve said in other threads that I don’t have a problem per-se with certain “latinizations” but at the same time I’ve also said that I do have a problem with this particular one. The very idea of “Eucharistic Adoration” is alien to the East and Orient. It’s simply not part of our patrimony.

It’d be fine as a "private"devotion (how it could be truly “private” I don’t know, but that’s somewhat off-topic here), but certainly not as part (and, judging by the community’s name, a central part at that) of an Oriental religious observance. To me, this business of muddying the waters to make some sort of “hybrid Church” is revolting.
 
I should stop reading any thread labeled “Maronite”. All they ever do is make my blood pressure rise to dangerous levels.

I too found the “Eucharistic Adoration” seen the in the video to be pretty bizarre and out of place, and I’m not even a Maronite. I guess I took it for granted that anyone joining a particular church would seek to immerse themselves in and practice the authentic spirituality of that church. I suppose the sort of hybridization shown in this video might be understandable (not excusable) from a new convert (as I myself fear bringing some Latin intellectualism into the Coptic Church, just because where I’m coming from), but it is distressing that it should come from monastics, of all people.

Here is how you join an Oriental church

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What somewhat baffles me is the fact that there are no Maronites at this monastery. Their website says that all the monks are of the Roman Rite. What exactly is Maronite about them? Their liturgy? I think it takes more than that to make one a Maronite. While I do very much like the idea of what their doing, I’m not sure this belongs in the Maronite Church. Rome keeps telling the East to de-Latinize. As much as I love Eucharistic adoration, it’s not in line with the Church’s commands.
 
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