Maronite Ordo

[Phillip_Rolfes]

Does anyone have the 2013-2014 Ordo for the Maronite Prayer of the Faithful? I’ve been checking eparchy.org regularly since January and it’s yet to be update. I don’t like feeling like I’m taking my best guess at liturgical prayer.

 

[malphono]

Apparently it’s sold out, but you could contact St MaronPublications and ask if and when it might be available again.

 

[MorEphrem]

Also, all the online ordo does is take the readings already in the books and make them line up with the numbered weeks, i.e. so you’re not doing the reading for the 14th sunday of pentecost if there aren’t 14 sundays after pentecost (that’s just a rough example).

Those readings are in general pretty arbitrary should you really shouldn’t worry about messing them up. They’re arbitrarily picked by a random bishop who decided to make his own version of the offices that isn’t patriarchally promulgated [and then translated into English].

 

[shawnbm]

My apologies to all, but I should think it easier to place this question here than elsewhere. I have attended Sunday and weekday masses/divine liturgies at a Maronite parish nearby. I have noticed that the liturgy almost always (if not always) has only one reading from the NT (an epistle) with no OT reading that I have seen. Is there a reason for this? Is it the tradition of the Maronites? Do they ever read from the OT during the liturgical year (it could be I was not there when the OT was read)? Thank you.

 

[JRS_88]

My apologies to all, but I should think it easier to place this question here than elsewhere. I have attended Sunday and weekday masses/divine liturgies at a Maronite parish nearby. I have noticed that the liturgy almost always (if not always) has only one reading from the NT (an epistle) with no OT reading that I have seen. Is there a reason for this? Is it the tradition of the Maronites? Do they ever read from the OT during the liturgical year (it could be I was not there when the OT was read)? Thank you.

Yes in the liturgy they are only taken from Saint Paul’s letters and the Gospels.
This link has an answer starting on page 4.

holyfamilymaronitechurch.org/mn/images/stories/Epistles.pdf

Others will be along to probably give a better answer in fewer words than that pdf, but it might help you

 

[MorEphrem]

Yes in the liturgy they are only taken from Saint Paul’s letters and the Gospels.
This link has an answer starting on page 4.

holyfamilymaronitechurch.org/mn/images/stories/Epistles.pdf

Others will be along to probably give a better answer in fewer words than that pdf, but it might help you

This is an innovation and certainly not a traditionally Maronite practice. This is an imposition of Tridentine liturgical practice on the Maronite liturgy. It was traditional that there were one or two OT readings in an addition to the Epistle.

In fact, until the 2005 liturgy, the Passion Week liturgies retained OT readings (off the top of the my head the Rshom Koso liturgy on the Friday of the Passion had readings from Isaiah to show the foretelling). It is by no means an organic Maronite practice that we no longer read from the OT. Even the link above by +Gemayel fleetingly alludes to the fact that the exclusion of the OT is an imposition of the Black Council.

 

[malphono]

Yes in the liturgy they are only taken from Saint Paul’s letters and the Gospels.
This link has an answer starting on page 4.

holyfamilymaronitechurch.org/mn/images/stories/Epistles.pdf

Others will be along to probably give a better answer in fewer words than that pdf, but it might help you

To simplify matters a bit, (i.e, leaving out what might pertain to Morning and Evening Prayer, etc), originally the schema was quite similar to that in the restored Chaldean usage: 1 reading from the Torah, 1 from the Prophets or Wisdom, 1 from the New Testament (Pauline or Minor Epistles, or Revalations), and 1 from the Gospel. What survied the Black Council was only the last two.

 

[shawnbm]

I find this fascinating. What is this Black Council two of you have mentioned?

 

[malphono]

I find this fascinating. What is this Black Council two of you have mentioned?

The Synod of 1736 which formally enshrined and expanded the latinizations which had crept in over the previous 150 or so years. See [thread=867200]this new thread[/thread].