Welcome home! So your of the Melkite Church? Please pm what made you want to convert, I rarely hear Orthodox conversion stories!I used to be Coptic Orthodox. I was Antiochian Orthodox and then became Coptic Orthodox and then ewelcontered into communion with Rome. I am considered an Eastern/Oriental Catholic. I attend a Melkite parish.
Does it? Hmm. I didn’t know that. I’ve read before that it was overwhelmingly Melkite and Maronite, with a minority of Greek Orthodox and an even smaller minority of Shia (isn’t it one of the largest Christian towns in Lebanon, along with Achrafieh?) Anyway, that just came up when I typed in “Syriac Maronite”, and I thought it was interesting because most Maronites don’t speak the language fluently. I read the comments later, for some reason, and I guess he might actually be from Sweden, which, yeah, virtually guarantees he’s Suryoyo (they’re the biggest Syriac population in Sweden by far). I didn’t notice the comment until it was too late to edit my post. I also didn’t catch the priest, but I did wonder about the Syriac flag in another part of the video. I’ve never seen non-Orthodox fly that (Chaldeans and ACoE having their own), but I figured any Maronite who speaks any form of Syriac and identifies as “Assyrian” would probably be pan-Syriac anyway. Oh well.
I would guess that they are using “Roman Catholic Church” in the sense that we use (and properly so) “Catholic Church”.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I am fairly certain no legal or ecclesiastical entity exists that is called the “Maronite Catholic Church” let alone the “Maronite Roman Catholic Church.” I believe the only entity that exists on paper is the “Maronite Church” with no other adjectives except Syriac and Antiochene.
Yes, that’s quite right.Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I am fairly certain no legal or ecclesiastical entity exists that is called the “Maronite Catholic Church” let alone the “Maronite Roman Catholic Church.” I believe the only entity that exists on paper is the “Maronite Church” with no other adjectives except Syriac and Antiochene.
To be fair, there is ONE notable exception, and I think you know who I mean.
Sadly, no. Even more sadly, one is generally even less likely to find them in the Patriarchal Territories.
Wow that’s sad…Sadly, no. Even more sadly, one is generally even less likely to find them in the Patriarchal Territories.
Sadly, no. Even more sadly, one is generally even less likely to find them in the Patriarchal Territories.
I agree, they actually stick close to there ancient traditions. If the Maronites were never Latinized, I think they would of been almost identical with the Syro Malakara Church, but ofcorse this is only my opinion.
Off topic, but yes, the Syro-Malankara are doubtless the least latinized of all. They’re also the most recent, received in 1932, which was, of course, under the reign of Pius XI who was a gentleman and a scholar and didn’t impose any baggage on them as conditions of reception.
They were also only created in 1930…maybe check again in another 800 years or so?
I think one reason why the Maronites are so Latinized is because of the fact that they never broke communion with Rome. Hopefully some day the Maronites will restore there ancient traditions and practices and remove all the Latinized stuff.I hope not. However, if they do latinize in 90 years, I doubt I will be here to see it.
The Maronites were affected by two major waves of latinizations: the first was in the 16th century, and was mainly (though not exclusively) rubrical. Much (well, at least some) of that has been done away with in the past 40-some years. What we have now is the second wave, which is what I habitually call Novus Ordo-inspired neo-latinization, and is far more insidious than what came before, particularly insofar as it has adulterated the very structure of the liturgy and the texts (and even the music) themselves. The worst part is that the second wave was NOT imposed by Rome. It’s often hard to tell if one is actually in a Maronite church or not.