fogive me joan but isn’t that what marriage is a sacrament.For the other question - if it was an invalid marriage - such as not done in a church - yes the finding of anullment is still needed to show there was not sacrament. One of the points of confusion here is that an anullment says there was no marriage - it does not - it simply states that there was a lack of sacrament.
WOW! Beautiful Homily…Loved It
We are truly blessed to have good holy priests in our parish, something I do not take for granted.That is Gods word in action if I ever heard it. Thankyou for sharing that.
Marriage is a sacrament only for those who have been baptized. Any two baptized people who have a valid marriage also have a sacramental marriage. However, two unbaptized people or one baptized person and one unbaptized person can have a valid marriage, but that marriage is not a sacrament.fogive me joan but isn’t that what marriage is a sacrament.
I agree with you Joe:thumbsup:Marriage is a sacrament only for those who have been baptized. Any two baptized people who have a valid marriage also have a sacramental marriage. However, two unbaptized people or one baptized person and one unbaptized person can have a valid marriage, but that marriage is not a sacrament.
That said, I’m not sure what Joan meant. A declaration of nullity speaks to the validity of the marriage.
Thank-you Liza,Hello jrhiggins -
This is the homily we heard at our parish that same weekend - it was OUTSTANDING. Perhaps this will help you understand the topic a little better from a priest who is rock solid in the Faith: Fr. Paul Ward - Homily on Divorce
Praying for you and your marriage.
~Liza
"The second marriage of a woman who had been divorced is
designated by Moses a defilement of the woman...a moral
defilement, i.e., blemishing, desecration of the sexual
communion which was sanctified by marriage, IN THE SAME SENSE
IN WHICH ADULTERY IS CALLED A DEFILEMENT in Lev 18:20 and Num
5:13,14..."
"Thus the second marriage of a divorced woman was placed
implicit upon a par with adultery, and some approach was made
towards the teaching of Christ concerning marriage (Mt
5:32)..."
"If the second marriage of a divorced woman was a moral
defilement, of course the wife could not marry the first again
even after the death of her second husband...because the
defilement of the wife would be thereby repeated, and even
increased, as the moral defilement which the divorced wife
acquired through the second marriage was not removed by a
divorce from the second husband, nor yet by his death."
6. Jesus simply made clear what the Law itself implied: To
divorce a woman for any reason other than sexual immorality
would cause her to be defiled (when she remarried)!
7. Therefore, I believe that a careful study of the Law
concerning divorce reveals...
a. That Jesus' teaching was really in harmony with the Law
itself
b. But the "traditional interpretation and application" of the
Law had missed the mark by placing emphasis upon the
mention of giving a certificate of divorceHi Jim, if I could just say a few things. You must remember there are 3 sides to every story. Your side, your wifes side, and the truth! Now I am not saying you side is not the truth. But in the defense of the Priest we do not know Jim what she has told him. He is only human Jim. I mean she could be lying like a rug. Or you could be also Jim. See what I mean. We cannot accuse the Priest because we do not know.Just thought I’d give you all an update.
I have a job that pays less than what my wife makes, for the past 2 months since she works as a freelancer she has not brought in a great amount of money and we have been relying mostly on my income. She got paid last night and immediately asked for 1/2 of all the bills. I just don’t have the money to pay that. So now she has money her position is that I should leave because I cannot split the costs 50/50. That was number 1.
Second, she quoted our pastor’s message that divorce was not a sin and since she never intends to re-marry she is not breaking the vow, and she received this advice from a priest in confession.
What a life, truly a spiritual blow, but God does make it interesting.
Jim
I was answering another posters question about why a lackof-form decree of nullity would be needed for her son to remarry in the Church. If you can help on this matter that would be wonderful. Thanks.Marriage is a sacrament only for those who have been baptized. Any two baptized people who have a valid marriage also have a sacramental marriage. However, two unbaptized people or one baptized person and one unbaptized person can have a valid marriage, but that marriage is not a sacrament.
That said, I’m not sure what Joan meant. A declaration of nullity speaks to the validity of the marriage.
Ah yes, I recall that now! My answer for that is simply that even open-and-shut cases still need to be investigated. The Marriage Tribunal won’t “know” there was a lack of form until someones goes in and fills out some paperwork that let’s them know they did not get married in a Catholic church. So everyone still needs to go through the process even though, from the vantage point of those involved, the end result is obvious.I was answering another posters question about why a lackof-form decree of nullity would be needed for her son to remarry in the Church. If you can help on this matter that would be wonderful. Thanks.