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rcwitness
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… You said it…Its actually a little bit where we are at regarding Contraceptives.
But she is Catholic and she is not resisting, but not fully convinced.
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… You said it…Its actually a little bit where we are at regarding Contraceptives.
But she is Catholic and she is not resisting, but not fully convinced.
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underacloud
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I suspect this is true for many (if not most?) Catholics who follow the Church’s teaching on contraception. It is a hard teaching, to understand and to follow; thus, obedience may be even more meritorious.
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underacloud
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The wife may very well know what the Church teaches, yet disagree with it.
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mrbean007
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This would be the case, yes.
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mrbean007
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I said I would try to open up a little bit about why I asked the question, so here goes. Please, be gentle with me… This is hard. I’m going to make it short, and I’m going to skip over a lot of personal details. But the gist of it is this:
I’m a walking contradiction. I’m Catholic, and I take it seriously, but I also can’t say that I really truly believe it. It’s not that I don’t want to (though there as things that are very hard), just that I’m not entirely convinced that it’s the truth. Or more accurately, I actively doubt that it’s true. I don’t choose to doubt, it’s just the way it is. At most, I suspend disbelief, because I think that to turn my back on what I already know for what’s less known would not be the morally upright decision, and I can’t say that I have the necessary evidence to conclude definitively that the Church is in error. So I make an assent of faith, because that’s all I can do.
I won’t go into the developmental reasons for why this is the case, though I will say that extreme scrupulosity, a lot of pain, a lot of humbling and a lot of soul searching have all been a part of my journey for many years now. I will say that I’ve read both Catholic and non-Catholic sources to try and get an understanding of the things I’m wrestling with, because I need a balanced perspective. I haven’t been as dilligent in my search for the truth as I should be, and that’s to my discredit; I pray fervently for God’s mercy in that matter. But I’m trying.
What’s very ironic is that I know what the Church teaches and live it more completely than a lot of Catholics, even if I can’t entirely believe it’s true.
My motivations are not pure, of course; I have a lot of biases both for and against the Church that make it extremely difficult to be objective in my search for the truth, as much as I strive for objectivity. Some of them are psychological (the scrupulosity, which is a symptom of an OCD-like disorder), some of them are selfish (a fear of Hell that makes me want to argue in favor of the Church because I fear judgement; anger at God for all the suffering I’ve dealt with for most of my life and the fact that I feel left out, that it’s hard to be Catholic and that I just “want to be normal like everybody else,” which makes me want to argue against the Church), and some of them I’m sure are simply the result of societal conditioning (compounded by the fact that I did not grow up Catholic; I converted from a generic doesn’t-go-to-church non-Catholic Christian in High School, so I know what I’ve had to give up and I’m aware of “what I’m missing.”)
I don’t forsee this doubt being resolved anytime soon. This gets us to the first half of why I’m asking.
I feel that I’m not Catholic enough for a devoutly Catholic spouse (it’s my perception that many devoutly Catholic women, when they talk about their ideal man, don’t wish for someone like me), and I also feel that I’m not secular enough for a secular spouse. I feel that no matter which side of the field I land on, I’m not going to find someone who can completely accept me for who I am. I’m also not sure that I could handle living with either a devoutly Catholic spouse (I admit this is due to personal bias and anger, primarily over the turmoil inside myself – I know that’s not fair), and I also know I couldn’t live with a secular spouse, because they most likely would not share my love of God and desire to search for the truth with me, and because they would be even less likely to be able to understand my obligations as a Catholic.
I’ve also decided that I’m not going to spend the rest of my life alone (subject to the will of God, of course, which has overridden me on many occasions, I admit usually to my benefit.) I’ve been alone most of my life, and it’s been very painful, and I’ve felt called to marriage from a very early age. I’m not going to let the tempest inside my soul prevent me from finding someone I can spend the rest of my life with.
And this gets me to the second half of why I’m asking.
I’ve met someone I really care about. We’ve been dating (chastely; I’ve been committed to chastity since 2008) for a few months, and we get along very well. She was born Catholic. She doesn’t understand it, but she goes to mass every Sunday and holy day and tries very hard to live a good life in the way she knows how. She doesn’t understand the magisterium, she believes that no religion is perfect (and she’s not going to suddenly believe in these things just because someone says it’s true), and she has beliefs that are in opposition to the Church. But I believe she’s doing her best, and I care very deeply for her. I believe that if we could work through the moral issues, she would be able to accept that I disagree with her while also understanding how important it is for me to be able to live my faith.
There are moral issues that aren’t easily resolved between us, and they could very well drive us apart as we talk more about them. I’m not naieve; as love-struck as I am at the moment, practically I know how hard it is to reconcile differing moral stances on the important issues, and I accept as a possibility that they could very well drive us apart in the end. But I’m also not going to rule out the possibility of being with her if it can work out.
If it doesn’t, perhaps someone else out there who is also imperfect in their adherence to the Church could. Or, it’s also always possible that someday I’ll meet a devout Catholic that I can love, and who can accept me, my hanging-by-a-thread faith and all. It could happen
Sorry, that wasn’t quite as short as I wanted it to be
Hopefully that makes some sense.
Please be gentle…
I’m a walking contradiction. I’m Catholic, and I take it seriously, but I also can’t say that I really truly believe it. It’s not that I don’t want to (though there as things that are very hard), just that I’m not entirely convinced that it’s the truth. Or more accurately, I actively doubt that it’s true. I don’t choose to doubt, it’s just the way it is. At most, I suspend disbelief, because I think that to turn my back on what I already know for what’s less known would not be the morally upright decision, and I can’t say that I have the necessary evidence to conclude definitively that the Church is in error. So I make an assent of faith, because that’s all I can do.
I won’t go into the developmental reasons for why this is the case, though I will say that extreme scrupulosity, a lot of pain, a lot of humbling and a lot of soul searching have all been a part of my journey for many years now. I will say that I’ve read both Catholic and non-Catholic sources to try and get an understanding of the things I’m wrestling with, because I need a balanced perspective. I haven’t been as dilligent in my search for the truth as I should be, and that’s to my discredit; I pray fervently for God’s mercy in that matter. But I’m trying.
What’s very ironic is that I know what the Church teaches and live it more completely than a lot of Catholics, even if I can’t entirely believe it’s true.
My motivations are not pure, of course; I have a lot of biases both for and against the Church that make it extremely difficult to be objective in my search for the truth, as much as I strive for objectivity. Some of them are psychological (the scrupulosity, which is a symptom of an OCD-like disorder), some of them are selfish (a fear of Hell that makes me want to argue in favor of the Church because I fear judgement; anger at God for all the suffering I’ve dealt with for most of my life and the fact that I feel left out, that it’s hard to be Catholic and that I just “want to be normal like everybody else,” which makes me want to argue against the Church), and some of them I’m sure are simply the result of societal conditioning (compounded by the fact that I did not grow up Catholic; I converted from a generic doesn’t-go-to-church non-Catholic Christian in High School, so I know what I’ve had to give up and I’m aware of “what I’m missing.”)
I don’t forsee this doubt being resolved anytime soon. This gets us to the first half of why I’m asking.
I feel that I’m not Catholic enough for a devoutly Catholic spouse (it’s my perception that many devoutly Catholic women, when they talk about their ideal man, don’t wish for someone like me), and I also feel that I’m not secular enough for a secular spouse. I feel that no matter which side of the field I land on, I’m not going to find someone who can completely accept me for who I am. I’m also not sure that I could handle living with either a devoutly Catholic spouse (I admit this is due to personal bias and anger, primarily over the turmoil inside myself – I know that’s not fair), and I also know I couldn’t live with a secular spouse, because they most likely would not share my love of God and desire to search for the truth with me, and because they would be even less likely to be able to understand my obligations as a Catholic.
I’ve also decided that I’m not going to spend the rest of my life alone (subject to the will of God, of course, which has overridden me on many occasions, I admit usually to my benefit.) I’ve been alone most of my life, and it’s been very painful, and I’ve felt called to marriage from a very early age. I’m not going to let the tempest inside my soul prevent me from finding someone I can spend the rest of my life with.
And this gets me to the second half of why I’m asking.
I’ve met someone I really care about. We’ve been dating (chastely; I’ve been committed to chastity since 2008) for a few months, and we get along very well. She was born Catholic. She doesn’t understand it, but she goes to mass every Sunday and holy day and tries very hard to live a good life in the way she knows how. She doesn’t understand the magisterium, she believes that no religion is perfect (and she’s not going to suddenly believe in these things just because someone says it’s true), and she has beliefs that are in opposition to the Church. But I believe she’s doing her best, and I care very deeply for her. I believe that if we could work through the moral issues, she would be able to accept that I disagree with her while also understanding how important it is for me to be able to live my faith.
There are moral issues that aren’t easily resolved between us, and they could very well drive us apart as we talk more about them. I’m not naieve; as love-struck as I am at the moment, practically I know how hard it is to reconcile differing moral stances on the important issues, and I accept as a possibility that they could very well drive us apart in the end. But I’m also not going to rule out the possibility of being with her if it can work out.
If it doesn’t, perhaps someone else out there who is also imperfect in their adherence to the Church could. Or, it’s also always possible that someday I’ll meet a devout Catholic that I can love, and who can accept me, my hanging-by-a-thread faith and all. It could happen
Sorry, that wasn’t quite as short as I wanted it to be
Hopefully that makes some sense.Please be gentle…
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mrbean007
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FYI, I’ve told you guys things I haven’t even felt comfortable telling the closest people in my life. Please don’t make me sorry I opened up to a bunch of random people on the internet… 
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underacloud
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You seem like a very sincere and intellegent man. As long as you continue to genuinely search for the truth, you will be fine! God never abandons those who seek Him.
But I think you have the impression that the Catholic faith comes easily to some poeple, and this is not true. It is always a challenge. A challenge to understand; for any individual, there will be certain teachings that are hard to accept. And a challenge to live, always.
And marriage has challenges too. Couples will never see eye to eye on every issue, whether moral, or financial, or family-related, etc. The important thing is how you deal with the disagreements. For a couple who are prepared to work together to resolve such issues, your hypothetical example here is not an insurmountable issue. Perhaps there are specific issues between you and this woman you are seeing, but I suspect, based on your overly scrupulous nature and tendency to worry (evidenced in the above post), that you have built them in your mind to be bigger than they really are. Feel free to share further when you feel comfortable; there’s really nothing we haven’t heard on this forum before.
One final thought. A person such as yourself may benefit from meeting regularly with a priest and developing an ongoing dialogue. Some might call him a “spiritual director”, but it’s really just someone to talk with until you feel like making the relationship more than that.
But I think you have the impression that the Catholic faith comes easily to some poeple, and this is not true. It is always a challenge. A challenge to understand; for any individual, there will be certain teachings that are hard to accept. And a challenge to live, always.
And marriage has challenges too. Couples will never see eye to eye on every issue, whether moral, or financial, or family-related, etc. The important thing is how you deal with the disagreements. For a couple who are prepared to work together to resolve such issues, your hypothetical example here is not an insurmountable issue. Perhaps there are specific issues between you and this woman you are seeing, but I suspect, based on your overly scrupulous nature and tendency to worry (evidenced in the above post), that you have built them in your mind to be bigger than they really are. Feel free to share further when you feel comfortable; there’s really nothing we haven’t heard on this forum before.
One final thought. A person such as yourself may benefit from meeting regularly with a priest and developing an ongoing dialogue. Some might call him a “spiritual director”, but it’s really just someone to talk with until you feel like making the relationship more than that.
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Rau
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Baptised in the Church, and I assume married in the Church, does the wife feel no duty to bring up the children in accordance with the faith, and to keep her contrary views as personal matters?
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runwaymodel
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This is tough because there is hypothetical children involved and it’s hard for them to grasp certain concepts sometimes (depending on the age).
But truly, who is to say one sinner is worse than the other? I mean, loving thy neighbor and lying are in the 10 commandments and I can guarantee you people break those all the time. So why aren’t those sinners not equal or worse than someone who is a homosexual?
So I would try to teach the kids: Yes, it is a sin but so is this and this and this…only God can judge. I think Christians get a horrible reputable sometimes (especially by the media) because of contradictory behaviors: one sin is more acceptable than others.
How about just try to act and behave as Jesus would.
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rcwitness
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Thanks for sharing.
You are searching and God seems to have given you a strong conscience to come to terms with faith. But, remember that its a journey. focus on what God is revealing to you at the moment without being overly concerned about the “hard to accept things”. What I mean, is share the beauty of the faith you do have and takes steps in it. The things you have strong conviction in, you should express with trust and hope. When you see rewards of trusting in Him, then other obsticles will begin to shrink.
The Church is full of treasures and mysteries. You will never run low on faith while in her pastures. Challenges? Definitely! But walk into those challenges with the confidence that Jesus is walking with you. And always remember to recieve His Eucharist in a worthy manner (knowing that you don’t deserve Him, but that you give Him glory for raising you out of nothing).
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runwaymodel
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Firstly, thank you for sharing your story. I know it can be very hard opening up, so I personally feel very honored that you blessed us with your story. Doesn’t it feel better?I said I would try to open up a little bit about why I asked the question, so here goes. Please, be gentle with me… This is hard. I’m going to make it short, and I’m going to skip over a lot of personal details. But the gist of it is this:
I’m a walking contradiction. I’m Catholic, and I take it seriously, but I also can’t say that I really truly believe it. It’s not that I don’t want to (though there as things that are very hard), just that I’m not entirely convinced that it’s the truth. Or more accurately, I actively doubt that it’s true. I don’t choose to doubt, it’s just the way it is. At most, I suspend disbelief, because I think that to turn my back on what I already know for what’s less known would not be the morally upright decision, and I can’t say that I have the necessary evidence to conclude definitively that the Church is in error. So I make an assent of faith, because that’s all I can do.
My motivations are not pure, of course; I have a lot of biases both for and against the Church that make it extremely difficult to be objective in my search for the truth, as much as I strive for objectivity. Some of them are psychological (the scrupulosity, which is a symptom of an OCD-like disorder), some of them are selfish (a fear of Hell that makes me want to argue in favor of the Church because I fear judgement; anger at God for all the suffering I’ve dealt with for most of my life and the fact that I feel left out, that it’s hard to be Catholic and that I just “want to be normal like everybody else,” which makes me want to argue against the Church), and some of them I’m sure are simply the result of societal conditioning (compounded by the fact that I did not grow up Catholic; I converted from a generic doesn’t-go-to-church non-Catholic Christian in High School, so I know what I’ve had to give up and I’m aware of “what I’m missing.”)
I don’t forsee this doubt being resolved anytime soon. This gets us to the first half of why I’m asking.
I feel that I’m not Catholic enough for a devoutly Catholic spouse (it’s my perception that many devoutly Catholic women, when they talk about their ideal man, don’t wish for someone like me), and I also feel that I’m not secular enough for a secular spouse. I feel that no matter which side of the field I land on, I’m not going to find someone who can completely accept me for who I am. I’m also not sure that I could handle living with either a devoutly Catholic spouse (I admit this is due to personal bias and anger, primarily over the turmoil inside myself – I know that’s not fair), and I also know I couldn’t live with a secular spouse, because they most likely would not share my love of God and desire to search for the truth with me, and because they would be even less likely to be able to understand my obligations as a Catholic.
I’ve also decided that I’m not going to spend the rest of my life alone (subject to the will of God, of course, which has overridden me on many occasions, I admit usually to my benefit.) I’ve been alone most of my life, and it’s been very painful, and I’ve felt called to marriage from a very early age. I’m not going to let the tempest inside my soul prevent me from finding someone I can spend the rest of my life with.
And this gets me to the second half of why I’m asking.
I’ve met someone I really care about. We’ve been dating (chastely; I’ve been committed to chastity since 2008) for a few months, and we get along very well. She was born Catholic. She doesn’t understand it, but she goes to mass every Sunday and holy day and tries very hard to live a good life in the way she knows how. She doesn’t understand the magisterium, she believes that no religion is perfect (and she’s not going to suddenly believe in these things just because someone says it’s true), and she has beliefs that are in opposition to the Church. But I believe she’s doing her best, and I care very deeply for her. I believe that if we could work through the moral issues, she would be able to accept that I disagree with her while also understanding how important it is for me to be able to live my
If it doesn’t, perhaps someone else out there who is also imperfect in their adherence to the Church could. Or, it’s also always possible that someday I’ll meet a devout Catholic that I can love, and who can accept me, my hanging-by-a-thread faith and all. It could happen
Sorry, that wasn’t quite as short as I wanted it to be
Please be gentle…
It think every one struggles with either their faith or understanding of their faith at some point in their life. I don’t think having questions is a bad thing. A wonderful nun I came in contact with during my journey once told me ‘if you don’t have questions and blindly accept everything, then I would be concerned’. Which is true because I don’t believe it is healthy to naturally go along with everything just to fit the ‘role’ of that category, if you truly don’t understand. There’s no shame in admitting that.
What has helped me is to pray to God to enlighten me. Talk to Him like he’s your friend and say “God, I don’t understand or agree with this (for whatever reason) please help me understand. Enlighten me”.
I would never give up my faith or not classify myself as a Catholic because I fail or falter on a few things occasionally. I think we’re all doing the best we can. We will never stop learning or growing spiritually. I see that as a beautiful thing actually.
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mrbean007
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Thanks, everyone. I appreciate the support a lot. I’m glad I took the time to open up to you all
I have another question. I’ve struggled a lot with the “head of the household” role. I’ve studied it a lot, and I understand the other side of the equation, that the husband is supposed to love his wife, and in so doing, not be a petty tyrant or a dictator, and that the wife is equal in dignity though not equal in her role. Still, the idea of a hierarchy that places the wife beneath the husband in any way leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. This is an example of an issue that raises very strong negative emotions and objections inside of me, so I hope you’ll forgive me if my words sound forceful in any way. It’s just something that I struggle with a lot internally.
What exactly is my moral obligation when filling the role as the head, and how much of my authority in the household is up to my own prudential judgement? The kind of independent woman that I’m attracted to would not be happy to have to submit to me, and I would be extremely unhappy making her submit to me (or even suggesting it), even in a small way.
If I determine that it would be a violation of her dignity to command her to obey even in matters where there are serious moral issues, or if I simply decide that it would be a bad idea because it would sow discord and discontent in the marriage, would I be guilty of sin? Would it be serious sin? Again, scrupulosity comes into play here; I have a hard time trusting my own judgement, and will always find reasons to second guess it and to imagine that the Church demands more of me that it really does.
If push comes to shove, I have to be honest and say that I really believe in my heart that marriage is an equal partnership. The authority of the husband over the wife is another one of those things that so far I’ve had to just suspend disbelief on.
I promise I’m trying to figure things out… Thank you all again!
I have another question. I’ve struggled a lot with the “head of the household” role. I’ve studied it a lot, and I understand the other side of the equation, that the husband is supposed to love his wife, and in so doing, not be a petty tyrant or a dictator, and that the wife is equal in dignity though not equal in her role. Still, the idea of a hierarchy that places the wife beneath the husband in any way leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. This is an example of an issue that raises very strong negative emotions and objections inside of me, so I hope you’ll forgive me if my words sound forceful in any way. It’s just something that I struggle with a lot internally.
What exactly is my moral obligation when filling the role as the head, and how much of my authority in the household is up to my own prudential judgement? The kind of independent woman that I’m attracted to would not be happy to have to submit to me, and I would be extremely unhappy making her submit to me (or even suggesting it), even in a small way.
If I determine that it would be a violation of her dignity to command her to obey even in matters where there are serious moral issues, or if I simply decide that it would be a bad idea because it would sow discord and discontent in the marriage, would I be guilty of sin? Would it be serious sin? Again, scrupulosity comes into play here; I have a hard time trusting my own judgement, and will always find reasons to second guess it and to imagine that the Church demands more of me that it really does.
If push comes to shove, I have to be honest and say that I really believe in my heart that marriage is an equal partnership. The authority of the husband over the wife is another one of those things that so far I’ve had to just suspend disbelief on.
I promise I’m trying to figure things out… Thank you all again!
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mrbean007
Guest
Yes, that’s probably true. I do have the tendency to blow things up. I always back myself up into an intellectual corner and then feel as if there’s no way out. I’m trying to train myself to recognize these apparent contradictions as expressions of a scrupulous mind, but it’s very hard.
Thank you again.
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underacloud
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If you hold that attitude, it is unlikely that the issue of “head of the household” will ever have any practical implications for your marriage anyway. Which is to say, couples who view marriage as a parntership will be likely to respectfully work through issues together.
This (equal parntership) is how I view it, and my marriage has gone very well so far (over ten years). I have never pulled rank…and I doubt it would get me anywhere anyway. That’s not to say that my wife doesn’t defer to my judgement at times; as I do with her on certain issues.
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Rau
Guest
Your obligation, your duty, is to love your wife.Thanks, everyone. I appreciate the support a lot. I’m glad I took the time to open up to you all
I have another question. I’ve struggled a lot with the “head of the household” role. I’ve studied it a lot, and I understand the other side of the equation, that the husband is supposed to love his wife, and in so doing, not be a petty tyrant or a dictator, and that the wife is equal in dignity though not equal in her role. Still, the idea of a hierarchy that places the wife beneath the husband in any way leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. This is an example of an issue that raises very strong negative emotions and objections inside of me, so I hope you’ll forgive me if my words sound forceful in any way. It’s just something that I struggle with a lot internally.
What exactly is my moral obligation when filling the role as the head, and how much of my authority in the household is up to my own prudential judgement? The kind of independent woman that I’m attracted to would not be happy to have to submit to me, and I would be extremely unhappy making her submit to me (or even suggesting it), even in a small way.
If I determine that it would be a violation of her dignity to command her to obey even in matters where there are serious moral issues, or if I simply decide that it would be a bad idea because it would sow discord and discontent in the marriage, would I be guilty of sin? Would it be serious sin? Again, scrupulosity comes into play here; I have a hard time trusting my own judgement, and will always find reasons to second guess it and to imagine that the Church demands more of me that it really does.
If push comes to shove, I have to be honest and say that I really believe in my heart that marriage is an equal partnership. The authority of the husband over the wife is another one of those things that so far I’ve had to just suspend disbelief on.
I promise I’m trying to figure things out… Thank you all again!
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mrbean007
Guest
Thank you. I still struggle with the theological aspect itself, but practically speaking, it’s my feeling that the dynamic of the marriage will depend on the individuals involved, and I think I would approach the marriage as you have.
Yes, I agree. Always, this is the most important thing.
Thank you, everyone. You’ve eased a lot of my fears. I still struggle with being Catholic, but at least I no longer feel like the Church is asking of me something that’s impossible. That’s what always happens with scrupulosity; the weight of “what ifs” and the inability to trust your own judgement becomes so overbearing that it renders you incapable of recognizing and adapting to the practical realities of everyday life. I no longer feel as if I’m destined to be alone the rest of my life, and that in and of itself I think will allow me to continue to accept my faith while I struggle with the intellectual problems I’m trying to resolve.
I’m still very interested in what others have to say, so I hope the discussion will continue.
Thanks again!
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Xantippe
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In everybody’s favorite verse on this (Ephesians 5) it’s, “21 Be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ. 22 Wives, be subject to your husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. 24 As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands. 25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, 26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. 28 Even so husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no man ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church, 30 because we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church; 33 however, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.”
So, set your mind at ease–no matter how “tough” the verse, there’s nothing there about how you as a husband are morally obligated to get your wife to kowtow to your husbandly authority–it’s all about the husband’s need to love and sacrifice.
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mrbean007
Guest
This is an old thread, but I thought an update would be in order. Over the past few months, we’ve been talking about things and spending more time together. A lot of doors have opened up for us in places where I thought we might have problems, and she even went to confession for the first time in years (she had previously said she doesn’t believe in confession.) The relationship has been good for both of us. We’ve both grown closer to God through it. I’ve also learned to be a little less anxious and to not worry about things as much.
In regards to the original question in this thread, she basically told me that when it comes to teaching our children (if we do get married) values, if we have a disagreement, she would trust me. I still think this particular issue would be a difficult one, but I think it’s one that we can get over. We’ll have to keep talking about the practical side of things and see how stuff will work out, but I have a lot of hope.
Things are moving in the right direction. Please keep praying for us. Thank you all!
In regards to the original question in this thread, she basically told me that when it comes to teaching our children (if we do get married) values, if we have a disagreement, she would trust me. I still think this particular issue would be a difficult one, but I think it’s one that we can get over. We’ll have to keep talking about the practical side of things and see how stuff will work out, but I have a lot of hope.
Things are moving in the right direction. Please keep praying for us. Thank you all!
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