Marriage between two male and female heads

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This sounds like a weird hypothetical, but I hope it does well in providing insight into the definition of marriage.

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Should a man and a woman who had been in an accident, and had to have their entire bodies amputated, and by the miracle of medicine, only their heads were kept alive for 20 years or so, be allowed to marry (assume they have full consciousness and normal brain/mind function)?
  1. Would this be a valid marriage according to the Catholic Church?
  2. Would this be a valid marriage if you had a traditional, but secular view of marriage?
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Has our “social justice” board really devolved to this?

The parameters are absurd, and this thread ought to be closed.
 
yellow8yellowM said:
This sounds like a weird hypothetical, but I hope it does well in providing insight into the definition of marriage.

The question is

Should a man and a woman who had been in an accident, and had to have their entire bodies amputated, and by the miracle of medicine, only their heads were kept alive for 20 years or so, be allowed to marry (assume they have full consciousness and normal brain/mind function)?
  1. Would this be a valid marriage according to the Catholic Church?
  2. Would this be a valid marriage if you had a traditional, but secular view of marriage?
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The answer is no, on both counts. Marriage requires consummation, which requires a body, particularly the lower body!

On case 2: the way the definition of marriage is being perverted for political ends, I imagine one of our states would expand it to include bodiless heads. Fortunately, we won’t see it until technology can keep bodiless heads alive. It may never happen.

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On more hypothetical grounds… :o let’s pretend for a second that physical consummation wasn’t required. They still couldn’t marry, because maleness and femaleness are soul deep. The sign of the marriage still demands the union of this compatibility. The two persons still possess the sign of a potent, complementary union of Christ and the Church in their very souls.

In other words, if a real partner in a marriage is maimed, the marriage remains valid.
 
MarcoPolo said:
On more hypothetical grounds… :o let’s pretend for a second that physical consummation wasn’t required. They still couldn’t marry, because maleness and femaleness are soul deep. The sign of the marriage still demands the union of this compatibility. The two persons still possess the sign of a potent, complementary union of Christ and the Church in their very souls.

In other words, if a real partner in a marriage is maimed, the marriage remains valid.
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But the marriage has to precede the disability in time. If married people become unable to, ah, consummate; they remain married. But if the disability exists beforehand, they cannot get married, AIUI.

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GEddie said:
But the marriage has to precede the disability in time. If married people become unable to, ah, consummate; they remain married. But if the disability exists beforehand, they cannot get married, AIUI.

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I believe that is correct. :o
 
What if we develop the ability to manufacture entirely synthetic bodies?
 
GEddie said:
As in mechanical, or as in cloned human?
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It would likely be a mixture of cloned biological parts with certain machine elements.

But let’s plit the two for the purpose of the discussion.
Scenario 1) Entirely mechanical
Scenario 2) Entirely cloned tissue
 
Stillness said:
What if we develop the ability to manufacture entirely synthetic bodies?
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If it were a synthetic body then it would be either fake sperm/egg or somebody else’s sperm/egg. I believe the conjugal act in either of these two cases would illicit.
 
Stillness said:
It would likely be a mixture of cloned biological parts with certain machine elements.

But let’s plit the two for the purpose of the discussion.
Scenario 1) Entirely mechanical
Scenario 2) Entirely cloned tissue
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Case 1: No marriage, since marriage is the union of two natural (ensouled) bodies, not sets of mechanical limbs.

Case 2: Marriage OK, but only once the bodies are ready (no bodiless heads); and they have to be male and female.

Any other version depends on how much, and what parts of the body are mechanical.

ICXC NIKA
 
yellow8yellowM said:
If it were a synthetic body then it would be either fake sperm/egg or somebody else’s sperm/egg. I believe the conjugal act in either of these two cases would illicit.
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If it was entirely synthetic, it is not human and couldnt even “marry” an opposite gender synthetic “person”. I would say. :o
 
MarcoPolo said:
On more hypothetical grounds… :o let’s pretend for a second that physical consummation wasn’t required. They still couldn’t marry, because maleness and femaleness are soul deep. The sign of the marriage still demands the union of this compatibility. The two persons still possess the sign of a potent, complementary union of Christ and the Church in their very souls.

In other words, if a real partner in a marriage is maimed, the marriage remains valid.
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I realized this post was confusing. Two same-gendered heads couldn’t be married even if consummation wasn’t required because they don’t have the compatible charism of gender soul deep.

Two opposite gendered persons already married would still be married if one of the partners became maimed.
 
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