Marriage: Falling in love isn't wrong right?

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I know about old testament arranged marriages and what have you, but Romantic isn’t wrong either. I mean if you just arrange a marriage out of something as pointless as money and greed what good is that? Not to mention most the context of these marriages is because well the time they lived in was rather harsh so their survival depended on it, God gave us the ability to fall in love, to say to someone ‘I want to spend the rest of my life with you’ for a reason right? Plus the new testament put some words about this too…Im just rather confused

Is it bad to be romantic or have some sense of romanticism or no? Im just really confused is all, I mean dating isn’t bad right? Knowing if she’s the one right for you(not saying perfect I mean we all have our flaws, I mean you are sure you want to marry her.)

I tried looking through the Married Love pages but I get more and more confused and get a rather cold or confused meaning.

I mean my parents dated and fell in love, there’s nothing wrong about that right?
 
Marrying a person you love is fine, of course. But there can be as many pitfalls as marrying for money or any other reason if one has unreasonable expectations of a potential spouse or of marriage itself. And the feeling of “being in love” may not last, especially if one spouse does something major that damages the marital relationship. It’s always a work in progress. So, while marrying because you are in love is fine, that feeling cannot be relied upon to sustain a marriage. Both spouses must want to grow together in mutual love and respect, and in Christian marriage with God as the center binding them together in their vows to each other. I hope that helps. I’m sure others will have things to say about it… 🙂
 
Science and God:

God: do what he says

Science: love comes/goes in the chemical sense, but any two people who do the above will continually fall back in love.

The trick is who can do number 1 with you? If they can, you will fall in love over and over again. And when not in love you will have a good marriage regardless.

God = smart… He knows stuff.
 
Yes that is fine and good.

One though is to keep in mind that some of those feelings can give a “plus” to the person that is not really there -and various other distortions. And feelings can come and go. Feeling is not the measure. Not the rock foundation for marriage.

It is not the authenticity of the feeling that is key -but the truth of the person. And of course the choice of the will in self giving etc. And of course grace …GOD - Sacrament.

Read the Jewelers Shop by St. Pope John Paul II.
 
Yes that is fine and good.

One though is to keep in mind that some of those feelings can give a “plus” to the person that is not really there -and various other distortions. And feelings can come and go. Feeling is not the measure. Not the rock foundation for marriage.

It is not the authenticity of the feeling that is key -but the truth of the person. And of course the choice of the will in self giving etc. And of course grace …GOD - Sacrament.

Read the Jewelers Shop by St. Pope John Paul II.
I know but I know you can’t just decide to marry a person willy nilly, you really have to bond with them, I mean romance is a component, not the entire thing as you all point out, but you can’t just be platonic or just ‘beneficial’ it can’t be entirely mechanized either, that lead to materialism
 
Being romantic is one thing, but falling in love is psychotic, depending on how you define it.
 
I mean, yes you have arguments, yes you have flaws, but when you over come them and still truly love each other as husband and wife, why is that less falling in love than it is now? I mean yeah its challenged and tested and what have you, but I don’t think that makes it less than it is.

However;

You can’t just marry someone just like that either, the very idea of wanting to spend the rest of your life with this person is not an easy judgement or choice either.

I just feel like Romance is a vital component, not the sole thing, but neither worthless

with out any other of the components, the rest of the machine falls apart
 
I know about old testament arranged marriages and what have you, but Romantic isn’t wrong either. I mean if you just arrange a marriage out of something as pointless as money and greed what good is that? Not to mention most the context of these marriages is because well the time they lived in was rather harsh so their survival depended on it, God gave us the ability to fall in love, to say to someone ‘I want to spend the rest of my life with you’ for a reason right? Plus the new testament put some words about this too…Im just rather confused

Is it bad to be romantic or have some sense of romanticism or no? Im just really confused is all, I mean dating isn’t bad right? Knowing if she’s the one right for you(not saying perfect I mean we all have our flaws, I mean you are sure you want to marry her.)

I tried looking through the Married Love pages but I get more and more confused and get a rather cold or confused meaning.

I mean my parents dated and fell in love, there’s nothing wrong about that right?
Nothing wrong with it, as long as romance isn’t seen as an end in itself or as the “be-all and end-all” of a relationship. Romance is one important component of marriage, and can serve as the germ for something greater, but it cannot carry a marriage on its own. Especially once children enter the picture, and you have to take them into the equation. 🙂

Not sure what you mean by “Married Love” pages, though - is it some sort of self-help book? A Catholic book? I’m curious. 😛
 
Knowing if she’s the one right for you(not saying perfect I mean we all have our flaws, I mean you are sure you want to marry her.)
No one is perfect, but virtue should be a massive gauge of a potential spouse. The more virtuous the better, and this is way more important than their appearance or even what sort of warm-fuzzies they give you.

Want to fall in love? Marry someone with virtue.
 
I know but I know you can’t just decide to marry a person willy nilly, you really have to bond with them, I mean romance is a component, not the entire thing as you all point out, but you can’t just be platonic or just ‘beneficial’ it can’t be entirely mechanized either, that lead to materialism
Romance may be a component sure.

Or not much of one.

That does not mean it is “willy nilly”.

Read the Jewelers shop.

One character in the work by St. John Paul says:

“Or love can be a collision
in which two selves realize profoundly
they ought to belong to each other, even though they
have no convenient moods and sensations.”

ignatius.com/Products/JSH-H/the-jewelers-shop.aspx

Get the book and read it slowly and thoughtfully and prayerfully…and over and over…

I call it a magna carta of marriage…a must read.
 
No one is perfect, but virtue should be a massive gauge of a potential spouse. The more virtuous the better, and this is way more important than their appearance or even what sort of warm-fuzzies they give you.

Want to fall in love? Marry someone with virtue.
And I would add: Be virtuous yourself! Good post. 👍👍
 
I know but I know you can’t just decide to marry a person willy nilly, you really have to bond with them, I mean romance is a component, not the entire thing as you all point out, but you can’t just be platonic or just ‘beneficial’ it can’t be entirely mechanized either, that lead to materialism
Romance may be a component sure (and can also be a problem - leading away from truth. One must not take feelings :as the measure"…“are they real feelings?” but rather “is this truth about the person”. Am I seeing the person correctly…).

Or not much of one.

That does not mean it is “willy nilly” if there are no “convenient” feelings.

Read the Jewelers shop.

One character in the work by St. John Paul says:

“Or love can be a collision
in which two selves realize profoundly
they ought to belong to each other, even though they
have no convenient moods and sensations.”

ignatius.com/Products/JSH-H/the-jewelers-shop.aspx

Get the book and read it slowly and thoughtfully and prayerfully…and over and over…

I call it a magna carta of marriage…a must read.
 
The desire for intimacy is what we’re drawn to in looking for a mate.

What at first attracts you to that person, is part of our biology. We see a person who attracts us in a physical way and then we desire to be with that person. But if it happens that the two come together, true love will then see beyond the physical into the emotional and deeper level of whom that person is.

Some say love is blind, but I think that true love is “super-sighted.” You see in the person qualities that others can not see.

I don’t buy that we don’t fall in love, we do. The term is just the expression of what we’re feeling at that time. However, for love to grow to deeper levels, it must be giving of self to the other. If you love the feeling of being loved alone, then the relationship is doomed, for this is self-love.

When you love another person, you have a desire for their happiness, even if it means living without you in their life. You want whats best for them and nothing more. It would make you happy if they loved you in return, but love doesn’t demand anything other than what they give freely. Just as God doesn’t force himself on us, so too we can’t force ourselves on others.

I fell in love with my wife when we were 14 years old on a CYC Beach Trip.

We’re both 64 years old now and we’ve been happily married 43 years.

I can assure you, for a marriage to be successful, each of the couple will help the other person to grow and this means letting them be who they are, not whom you’d like them to be.

But in the beginning, romance was real and strong.

Jim
 
Retro Ace,
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I share the same concerns as you do.
I’ve read up on the topic for years now and I too feel even more confused.

There seems to be worldly wisdom (out of care and love) taught as well as spiritual… and even at that, there seems to be no one real way that one can logically follow and yet still feel assured about the choice of marriage, and WHO to choose to marry.

I take comfort in the fact that Our Lady of Fatima said: "Many marriages are not of God and do not please Our Lord.” It was around that time divorce started to become a ‘thing’. So to me it would seem that something around that time was either being taught as ok and wasn’t in God’s eyes, or that something important was being omitted and not upheld or taught when it comes to marriage… otherwise, how were people falling into the error? Was her statement a premonition of the divorce rate being so high today?

What does it mean when Our Lady of Fatima said that many marriages are “not of God”… Also the phrase “what God put together…”… What GOD put together, not what two people decided to do and now we’ll go get a priest to bless it… These phrases concern me and propel me to look further into the issue of God and romantic love.

Marriage is supposed to glorify God, but I do not see God glorified in marriages in which are fighting all the time, the couple is cold towards one another and they just decide to ‘stick with it’ because that’s the right thing to do… even though its right to stick with it, this doesn’t glorify God in my opinion, rather mocks marriage… What child grows up wanting to 'glorify God ’ in that way? What person says I do in the hopes that will be them someday! What others are compelled to glorify God also when they witness a couple like this!?

I’ve been reading about ancient texts from online articles from other religion’s take on this topic… mainly Jewish. I’m not sure if its mainstream Judaism as we know today or something else, but they seem to teach there is “one” set aside for you… and that you’d know as soon as you’d meet them. Then I compared that to the polygamy of David (that was ok back then)… and wondered how that all fit! ?? Obviously not all of David’s wives did he marry for romantic reasons- some maybe economic (widows in need), some maybe sexual attraction?. I’m also thinking though about how Jesus said one is enough for all of us. It would seem too the marital act is bonding in and of itself too as it is said “the two become one”… So, in that sense, maybe that special grace is given within marriage when it is consummated. However, this is no guarantee either.
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 I'd like to second what others have said here-  VIRTUE, look for virtues in another.. good ones, not lax, not 'kind of there', but real solid virtues in another that you can admire and look up to and which makes you want to emulate them.   Both people should want to throw the other high up to the Lord for the other's sake, all the time, in love, as that is what love does... seeks the best for the other.   But here's the thing... with anyone, virtues within another can fail.  People sin.  People fall.  People are widely tempted.  People can get tired.  We can hope that it won't happen, but it does.
Ultimately I think it boils down to faith. Much in the same way a person’s religious life and how well they are doing in that commitment is how much faith they have in it. It can waiver. Its not going to be perfect all the time… maybe that is half the battle… to realize that, so when those moments come, you won’t be thwarted. Also I believe you can’t let romantic feelings ever trump religious morals… once morals go down the drain you are left with something half empty anyway, which doesn’t thrill, doesn’t excite, doesn’t inspire those same initial feelings of love- it can’t because its become a ‘usage’ thing, rather than a giving promising one.

Sorry… just me gabbing… I don’t really have any real answers, only that its kind of a big mystery I don’t think any religion or civilization has ever figured out… If as it is written in Scripture that God is love, and that He is unfathomable… then maybe that’s the reason no one person’s answer can suffice, and so we should just humble ourselves before Him and pray for His grace in this matter. Isn’t that all we have anyway?
 
Marrying a person you love is fine, of course. But there can be as many pitfalls as marrying for money or any other reason if one has unreasonable expectations of a potential spouse or of marriage itself.
Also, the years spent playing flirt or relationship games while awaiting “the one” can chew up the best years of life. That didn’t happen when expectations were less romantic.

ICXC NIKA
 
Arranged marriages throughout history were very rarely conducted in the way people today think of them. In ancient China, for example, the bride and groom had significant say in choosing their spouse. Romantic love played a big factor; it wasn’t an authoritarian practice where neither had any choice and it was only done for politics or money.
 
Even if two people marry without feeling romantic about it, they can learn to love each other deeply. Love is an act of our will, not something we “fall into.” Love that is thus freely given does not blind our eyes as we walk down the aisle to say our vows. Both people should know that the person they are marrying isn’t going to ring their bell all the time, that there are going to be hard times as well as good times. It’s immature to think it will be all sunshine and roses just because two people feel they’re “in love.”
 
Even if two people marry without feeling romantic about it, they can learn to love each other deeply.
Read the Jewelers shop.

One character in the work by St. John Paul says:

“Or love can be a collision
in which two selves realize profoundly
they ought to belong to each other, even though they
have no convenient moods and sensations.”

ignatius.com/Products/JSH-H/the-jewelers-shop.aspx

Get the book and read it slowly and thoughtfully and prayerfully…and over and over…

I call it a magna carta of marriage…a must read.
 
Even if two people marry without feeling romantic about it, they can learn to love each other deeply. Love is an act of our will, not something we “fall into.” Love that is thus freely given does not blind our eyes as we walk down the aisle to say our vows. Both people should know that the person they are marrying isn’t going to ring their bell all the time, that there are going to be hard times as well as good times. It’s immature to think it will be all sunshine and roses just because two people feel they’re “in love.”
Love is both the act of the will and the effect it has on us. We in fact, fall in love as our hearts, mind and soul become attached to the person we’re in love with, without even knowing how it happens.

To deny this is to deny human emotions.

However, love must grow beyond, “eros,” romantic love and this is where the will comes in, as we decided to love when the passions have faded. But even people who have been married 50 years or more, still have romantic love for each other.

Eros, is not lust, which is a mistake many people make.

Jim
 
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