Marriage retreat rant

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As a long time member of the Seattle Archdiocese I say to have experienced a solid orthodox Catholic retreat would have been wonderful but a fluke.
 
K-McD said:
I appreciate your time and effort in creating this web site; however, I would like to see a web site exposing the “wolves in sheep’s clothings” people within the Church.😦
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Who is creating what website? Am I missing something here?

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I know I’m late to this thread, but wanted to share that if this was, in fact, an “Engaged Encounter” weekend, I would definitely encourage you to speak up. Whomever you decide to write to first, why not “cc” the letter to the folks that ran the retreat, the folks in charge of EE in the USA, your bishop, Family Life office coordinator, etc.

I wish I had done all this right away after our horrid EE experience; now, after 3.5 years of marriage, it’s a little too late.

Btw, there was quite a lengthy discussion on this a while back (Sept. 2005) that might give you some more info on the matter. Karl Keating had mentioned it in one of his e-letters & it sparked quite a discussion. Some of the EE staff people joined in, too:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=74911&highlight=engaged+encounter
 
K-McD said:
I appreciate your time and effort in creating this web site; however, I would like to see a web site exposing the “wolves in sheep’s clothings” people within the Church.😦
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I don’t think it would even be legal to publish people’s names and accuse them of heresy and dissent (or idiocy, etc. …).
 
jmcrae said:
I don’t think it would even be legal to publish people’s names and accuse them of heresy and dissent (or idiocy, etc. …).
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No. But it sure would be fun to watch them get all defensive.
 
I’m sorry you had such a bad experience- but I am glad you saw the glaring holes in what you were being taught!
We have marriage prep next weekend, and I can’t say I’m looking forward to it. I expect it will be not too far from what you described, from what I’ve heard.
Keep us updated if there’s a response from your bishop…
 
K-McD said:
No. But it sure would be fun to watch them get all defensive.
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I already know how that would go - We would be accused of being unloving, judgemental, and Pharasaical. And we would be barred from holding any volunteer positions in the Church because we are such horrible monsters, with wanting people to know the Truth, instead of just singing happy-joy-joy songs, and dancing and skipping joyously hand in hand into the bottom-most pits of Hell.
 
jmcrae said:
I already know how that would go - We would be accused of being unloving, judgemental, and Pharasaical. And we would be barred from holding any volunteer positions in the Church because we are such horrible monsters, with wanting people to know the Truth, instead of just singing happy-joy-joy songs, and dancing and skipping joyously hand in hand into the bottom-most pits of Hell.
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Not in my parish. There’s not to many people volunteering to do some of the “ministry work” in our parish. So, if someone dosen’t like what I do or say, fire me!
 
Twenty years ago I went to a marriage encounter day, run by a supposedly Catholic couple. They suggested trying masturbation and advocated contraception. Halfway through we left. I still wonder what they were going to say the second half of it. Luckily we didn’t have to be there. We complained to the marriage encounter leaders in our small city, and I presume they were taken care of, since whenever I encountered the husband later on it was obvious that he hated me. However, I wouldn’t have proceeded any differently about it, in fact I would now deeply regret not having done anything about it if I hadn’t acted
This marriage preparation experience is not disgusting to me but a disaster. I am afraid that some of the people there will accept their advice, ruining their souls. Actually, these leaders were giving a form of spiritual direction, meant to turn the people’s lives into lthe paths they wanted, and obviously they should not have been there.
 
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