The Catholic should detatch his or herself from their feelings about the other and step back and rationally think about what they are getting into. Marriage is in a state of crisis because many people only follow their hearts and not their minds. Remember part of Marriage is an establishment of a healthy home to raise children. Choosing a qualified spouse that can do this is the first step.If a Catholic and non-Catholic want to get married, but the non-Catholic doesn’t really think it’s needed (why should it be so that their love doesn’t really count until official marriage), but they’re willing to go along with it to please the other, then can they get married in the Catholic Church?
It sounds harsh, but I have to agree with this post. To me, my Catholic faith is so important that I wanted (and have) someone who would share those values. In this case, they do not share those values, nor do they respect them. This will cause problems in the future as it relates to children, NFP, Church, etc.The Catholic should detatch his or herself from their feelings about the other and step back and rationally think about what they are getting into. Marriage is in a state of crisis because many people only follow their hearts and not their minds. Remember part of Marriage is an establishment of a healthy home to raise children. Choosing a qualified spouse that can do this is the first step.
I wouldn’tmarry someone who does’nt believe in marriage oir doesn’t respect/learn the Catholic Faith.
Not only disresectful but probably non-valid: lacking proper intent and destined for annulment. Like you said it sounds harsh but someone has to lay it on the line. Marriage deserves that much.It sounds harsh, but I have to agree with this post. To me, my Catholic faith is so important that I wanted (and have) someone who would share those values. In this case, they do not share those values, nor do they respect them. This will cause problems in the future as it relates to children, NFP, Church, etc.
It is a time to step back and take a look at what marriage actually is to them and where their values lie, regardless of their feelings that they are “so in love and want to get married.”
Can a Catholic and non-Catholic get married? The answer is yes. I would say that if they go into the marriage with the wrong intention, that is disrespectful to the sacrament given to us by Jesus Christ. I would hope that the priest that they have to talk to about this would be able to counsel them and give them the guidance about the sacrament that they seem to be taking so lightly.
It is amazing to me that so many couples take marriage so lightly. I know that a lot of that comes with spiritual maturity, but it still shocks me. The sacrament of marriage is the same as Christ taking the Church as His bride. We are joined in that…WOW, how amazing it is.Not only disresectful but probably non-valid: lacking proper intent and destined for annulment. Like you said it sounds harsh but someone has to lay it on the line. Marriage deserves that much.
I think this could be a canonical impediment regarding the goods and requirements of marriage. I would think someone who doesn’t view marriage as necessary might not be able to form the requisite consent/intent.If a Catholic and non-Catholic want to get married, but the non-Catholic doesn’t really think it’s needed (why should it be so that their love doesn’t really count until official marriage), but they’re willing to go along with it to please the other, then can they get married in the Catholic Church?
What do they mean by love? What part of “until death do we part” isn’t needed?If a Catholic and non-Catholic want to get married, but the non-Catholic doesn’t really think it’s needed (why should it be so that their love doesn’t really count until official marriage), but they’re willing to go along with it to please the other, then can they get married in the Catholic Church?
No one has said this. It is not their non-Catholic status that is the primary issue here. The issue is their view that “marriage isn’t necessary”. This would have to be probed more with the priest, but if through discussion it was determined that the other party lacked the proper intent and/or ability to give consent, then no they could not be married.As such , I am dismayed to see people saying that any marriage that goes on between us would not count.
everything else is secondary to Love of God , not just to marriage and marital love. What’s the problem with that?There seem to be two contrasting points here.
The first made seemed to be (and I may have misinterpreted) that Love in marriage is secondary to love of God…am I correct in that?
Love is not relevant. Marriage is a vocation, in the Catholic understanding. Marriage is a Sacrament in the Catholic Church.The second is that love is based on trust and full understanding and agreement on religion, and thus anyone marrying a catholic must be catholic as well.
No. You are talking about the “feeling” of love. That is not the primary purpose or end of marriage.While these are…interesting…points, they all seem to suggest that no Love I feel can be valid unless I am willing to submit to following a God I am not certain exists. Am I right so far?
Uh, sacrifice your righteousness? No, I don’t think so.It just seems somehow unfair, especially since I always understood the bible to be about loving your neighbour, and doing the quintissential “right thing” even if it means sacrificing your rightousness.
Of course God understands our love of others. That does not mean we are called to marry them, necessarily.God will understand a man killing in his name and breaking a sin, but will not understand how someone with no love for him can love another?
I think you should spend some time reading what the Church teaches the purpose of marriage to be, what a Sacrament is, and what the requirements of marriage are.I would appreciate any criticisms, or corrections here.
No, I understood your question, and that is the question I answered.I must interupt in that I believe some of you understood my question incorrectly. I wished to know if someone that believes in marriage could enter a Sacramental marriage to someone that doesn’t believe marriage may be needed.
Pro-life teen,I
And as long as we’re being honest here, I am the Catholic in question in the Original Post.
…and what if one day you wake up and she’s not there for you. What if one day she’s more concerned about the children or her own vanity than she is about you? Do you have a love strong enough to endure torture even while she takes you and your agony entirely for granted?As for my definiton of love, in this case it is a love that would make me defy the wishes of my family and my God to be with her, not through lust, but through a knowledge that whatever else happens, we will both be there for one another, and the love felt is strong enough to sustain me even through torture.
Jwlynas seems imply that a person should choose a spouse based on “liking them” – this is of course true to a degree, but far short of the full truth. One morning I might wake up and find that I don’t feel a “liking” for my wife at all. Perhaps there was a bitter argument, mental or physical illness, a conversion to a strange cult, or some other drastic change that I cannot understand and have trouble dealing with. But she would still be my wife, whom I am commanded to love, regardless of how my emotions of the moment drift over the years. That kind of commitment is probably impossible if my approach to marriage is based on my feelings, but not if it is based on my commitment to God and his plan for my life.I would hope your trust in your daughters judgement would be enough to choose a true love through her own ideals, before worrying about what other people think. Far more important that you yourself like your spouse, rather than your spouse being liked by the family)