Married Convert Becoming A Priest

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I have tried searching this site for an existing thread, but can’t seem to find one.

In my home diocese we have a Catholic convert who is married with two children and has become a priest and is now pastor of one of our churches. I believe he may have been Lutheran.

Please explain how this can be done? Thank you.
 
Celibacy of clergy is an aspect of Canon Law. The Bishops/Pope can change Canon Law, and in this case have made a provision for married clergy, already ordained in certain denominations such as the Lutheran and Episcopalian churches, who subsequently convert to the Catholic Church.
 
Hello

Strange but true, we have had former anglican priest convert to catholicism and become priest and are married. But not too sure if they can serve a Parish Church or just cover.

God Bless
Saint Andrew.
 
If i am not mistaken however, they must practice continence after their ordination?
 
We have a Married Priest (convert after marriage/ordination) around these parts. Should the wife pass away, he is not free to re-marry.
 
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michaelgazin:
If i am not mistaken however, they must practice continence after their ordination?
Why would they have to do that? That would seem to put an undue burden on their marriage.
 
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michaelgazin:
If i am not mistaken however, they must practice continence after their ordination?
No, this is untrue.

They are, like deacons, prohibited from remarrying if their spouse dies. However, they are in no way restricted from normal marital relations with their spouse.

Ah-- I see why you are confused. You are reading an article about the early church. Yes, it was true at that time. However, it is no longer required.
 
Our priest (ex-Presbyterian) is married. The church understands that marriage is a covenant between two people, so it honors that covenant and puts no restrictions on that marriage.

Our priest, cannot serve as Pastor in our Church, but that’s the only restriction the Church puts on him. He performs all the other duties as Pastor, though.

It’s interesting to note, his wife was Catholic, and she converted to the Anglican Church for him. Then in 1994, his entire Church (well, those that stayed on) converted to the Roman Catholic Faith. I attended their Church in Arlington, and they are still allowed to use the Anglican Rite during Mass (I hope I’m using the right term): tons of incense, the kneeling rails at the altar for communion, and numerous chanting of prayers.

I was so covered with the smell of incense, I was worried my wife would think I was drinking at the bar instead of going to Church!!!

NotWorthy
 
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Our priest (ex-Presbyterian) is married. The church understands that marriage is a covenant between two people, so it honors that covenant and puts no restrictions on that marriage.

Our priest, cannot serve as Pastor in our Church, but that’s the only restriction the Church puts on him. He performs all the other duties as Pastor, though.

It’s interesting to note, his wife was Catholic, and she converted to the Anglican Church for him. Then in 1994, his entire Church (well, those that stayed on) converted to the Roman Catholic Faith. I attended their Church in Arlington, and they are still allowed to use the Anglican Rite during Mass (I hope I’m using the right term): tons of incense, the kneeling rails at the altar for communion, and numerous chanting of prayers.

I was so covered with the smell of incense, I was worried my wife would think I was drinking at the bar instead of going to Church!!!

NotWorthy
Cool story! I’ve never heard of an entire congregation converting together. Must have been awesome!

Peace,
javelin
 
In Texas, I am not sure where, an entire Episcopalian congregation coverted to the Catholic Church. Under a 1979 rule established by Pope John Paul II of eternal memory, married Anglican priests may, on a case-by-case basis, petition to become priests in the Latin Catholic Church. Currently, there is a young married Anglican priest in Scranton, PA who is converting to the Catholic Church.

These priests use an altered Book of Common Prayer for their Liturgy, approved by the Vatican. One such church is Our Lady of the Atonement in San Antonio, Texas.

atonementonline.com/intro.html
 
Barbara Rice:
I have tried searching this site for an existing thread, but can’t seem to find one.

In my home diocese we have a Catholic convert who is married with two children and has become a priest and is now pastor of one of our churches. I believe he may have been Lutheran.

Please explain how this can be done? Thank you.
I bet your from minnesota. His name is Larry Blake. There was an article about him in the paper a few weeks ago.

startribune.com/stories/389/5461053.html

A DOUBLE BLESSING

Larry Blake

Larry Blake’s son brought friends home from college to meet his dad, “because they didn’t believe what I was telling them.” What the young man was telling them was that his father is a Roman Catholic priest who is also married with three children.

Blake is one of only about 100 married Catholic priests in the country. He was ordained as a Lutheran pastor in 1978, then converted to Catholicism in 1993, hoping to eventually be accepted as a priest. In 1999, when his youngest child was a toddler, he was the first married man to be ordained a priest in the then-149-year history of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis. His ordination was based on a special “pastoral provision” by the Vatican.

Blake works as business administrator and does some pastoral work for St. Hubert Catholic Church in Chanhassen, which has almost 9,000 members.

At home in Victoria, the 53-year-old priest takes off his clerical collar, puts on a T-shirt, cuts the lawn, helps with the dishes and tries to be a good spouse to his wife, Diane, and dad to his kids: John, 20; Sarah, 16, and Joseph, 6.

Because he has worked at St. Hubert for six years and because many of his flock attended his ordination, most know he’s a family man. Yet, sometimes new people or visitors say to him, “I notice you’re wearing a wedding ring.” One time he mentioned his family in his homily and a shocked visitor from Chicago said afterward, “I didn’t think I was hearing you right.”

Occasionally, though, his marital status comes in handy, such as when someone seeking help mentions that they know he, too, wrestles with problems of parenthood.

Blake calls it a “double blessing” that he can be a priest and have a family: “Priests need to develop healthy relations with people. Isolation is not a good thing. … We all need people who care about us. We all need people we’re accountable to and who hold us accountable. I’m grateful to my family. If I’m out of line, they let me know.”

Peg Meier

I can’t recall the name of the other. Also a former Lutheran.

Celibacy is a discipline. They can get a waiver on it from the vatican for certain cases such as a convert pastor who wants to be a preist. There were about 500 Anglican priests/bishops in the mid 90’s who became Catholic and got such a waiver when the Anglicans started ordaining women. It should also be noted that Eastern Rite Catholic priests can be married. The discipline is not required of them.

blessings
 
We have a married priest also, who converted from the Methodist church after being pastor there for many years. His wife led the way, being drawn home to Rome by the exchange student they were hosting. He resigned from his pastorage and followed her about a year later.

Unlike some other married priests, Father James IS pastor over his Catholic parish. It could be because his daughter is already grown. Or it could be just the perogative of the local bishop.
 
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javelin:
Cool story! I’ve never heard of an entire congregation converting together. Must have been awesome!

Peace,
javelin
Although still uncommon, it is happening elsewhere, too (and yes, it is awesome!). I saw a tape of this guy taking his Church in Detroit (non-denominational) and converting it to the Catholic Faith. It is uplifting but traumatic. It brings to mind the words of Jesus where He states that “Families will become divided because of Me”. In this instance, numerous rifts occurred because some converted, but some didn’t.

In this guys case, the more he studied the early Church, the more he was unwittingly drawn to the Catholic Church. The Eucharist was the ultimate tool to bring him back Home!

God Bless!

NotWorthy
 
Nan S:
We have a married priest also, who converted from the Methodist church after being pastor there for many years. His wife led the way, being drawn home to Rome by the exchange student they were hosting. He resigned from his pastorage and followed her about a year later.

Unlike some other married priests, Father James IS pastor over his Catholic parish. It could be because his daughter is already grown. Or it could be just the perogative of the local bishop.
Thanks for the information. I’d like to pass this on to my Parish priest (again, he’s an Episcopal convert, married). He states emphatically, that due to his married status, he can not be a Pastor. Again, only the name is witheld. The duties and responsibilities are definately there.

I wonder how much Seminary study your Methodist Preacher had to go through to became a Catholic Priest. The Episcopal Church is so close to ours, is why I assumed they could convert.

NotWorthy
 
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NotWorthy:
Thanks for the information. I’d like to pass this on to my Parish priest (again, he’s an Episcopal convert, married). He states emphatically, that due to his married status, he can not be a Pastor. Again, only the name is witheld. The duties and responsibilities are definately there.

I wonder how much Seminary study your Methodist Preacher had to go through to became a Catholic Priest. The Episcopal Church is so close to ours, is why I assumed they could convert.

NotWorthy
This requirement that they not be pastors is set by the local bishop (Rome may have something to do with it to) but there is nothing in Church Teachings that makes it so.

I believe that the Anglican Use parishs have a married priest as their pastors.

Also the married priesthood is the norm for the secular priesthood in the Byzantine Churchs and they are pastors.
 
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If i am not mistaken however, they must practice continence after their ordination?
Why would they have to do that? That would seem to put an undue burden on their marriage.
Fr. Phillips who is pastor at Our Lady of the Atonement was ordained a Catholic Priest in 1983 and he has an 18 yr old daughter. I’ll let you do the math…
 
In Texas, I am not sure where, an entire Episcopalian congregation coverted to the Catholic Church
See this site:
http://www.stmarythevirgin.org/
Former Episcopal church was received into the Catholic Church as an Anglican Usage Under the Latin Rite and came in with the whole property, church building and all…
 
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TobyLue:
See this site:
http://www.stmarythevirgin.org/
Former Episcopal church was received into the Catholic Church as an Anglican Usage Under the Latin Rite and came in with the whole property, church building and all…
That’s the parish our priest came from!!! The Good Reverend Martin Nelson is a wonderful man!

NotWorthy
 
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