Married Man Will Enter Priesthood

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In my area, there is a married man that used to be an Anglican Priest…and he’s come home to the Catholic Church. He has approval for joining the Catholic Priesthood and the Ordination ceremony is later on this week.

My curious question is…

How is it possible for a married man to become a Catholic Priest? As far as I knew, the Western/Latin disciplines usually prescribe unmarried Catholic men becoming Priests. I’d appreciate knowing the answer and please be aware I’m not making a debate thread.
 
In my area, there is a married man that used to be an Anglican Priest…and he’s come home to the Catholic Church. He has approval for joining the Catholic Priesthood and the Ordination ceremony is later on this week.

My curious question is…

How is it possible for a married man to become a Catholic Priest? As far as I knew, the Western/Latin disciplines
Code:
usually
prescribe unmarried Catholic men becoming Priests. I’d appreciate knowing the answer and please be aware I’m not making a debate thread.
I believe you have answered your own question.

tee
 
Hi seremina,

Here is an article regarding the Church’s dispensation to married clergy who wish to become Catholic priests:
ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/MARPRIE.htm
After proper examination by his Catholic bishop and with the permission of the Holy Father, he would be then ordained first as a Catholic transitional deacon and then as a priest. If the former Episcopalian minister were single at the time of his ordination as a Catholic deacon and then priest, he would indeed take the vow of celibacy. If the married former Episcopalian minister were ordained as a Catholic deacon and then priest, he would be exempt by a special favor from the Holy Father of making the promise of celibacy; however, if he later became a widower, then he would be bound to a celibate lifestyle and could not remarry. In the future, if a lay member of one of these reunited parishes wanted to become a Catholic priest, he would be required to take the promise of celibacy.

The promise of celibacy is waived as a favor to those married clergy, given their particular circumstances and their desire to unite with the Catholic Church. However, the Holy Father has repeatedly affirmed the discipline of celibacy on Roman Catholic clergy of the Latin Rite. (Outside the United States, the Eastern Rites do not require the promise of celibacy except for bishops.)
The article is discussing Anglican/Episcopalian priests, but the dispensation is not limited to Anglicans. We have a married priest in the area who is formerly a Presbyterian minister.

Pax,
Robert
In my area, there is a married man that used to be an Anglican Priest…and he’s come home to the Catholic Church. He has approval for joining the Catholic Priesthood and the Ordination ceremony is later on this week.

My curious question is…

How is it possible for a married man to become a Catholic Priest? As far as I knew, the Western/Latin disciplines usually prescribe unmarried Catholic men becoming Priests. I’d appreciate knowing the answer and please be aware I’m not making a debate thread.
 
Huh? How did I answer my own question? Your reply wasn’t an answer to my question. [sighs]
 
Anglicans/Episcopalians are one of the Churches whose faculties are recognized by the Catholic and Orthodox Church. As such, without it being a ‘reversion’ they can apply for priesthood within those Churches, and are often accepted. Sometimes ‘reversions’ are also accepted, depending on the circumstances involved with their leaving the Catholic Church.

I understand, there is a really large group in Texas - a number of churchs and their priests, that desire to come into the Catholic Church. It is just that the bisop of that diocese, has to work out all the symantics of that many coming in at one time.

Recognition of other churches’ orders

There is mutual recognition of the validity of holy orders among the Eastern Orthodox, Polish National, Oriental Orthodox, and Old Catholic churches and the Assyrian Church of the East as they have maintained the apostolic succession of bishops, i.e., their bishops claim to be in a line of succession dating back to the Apostles, just as Catholic bishops do. Consequently, if a priest of these Churches converts to another, he is generally received as a priest without need for re-ordination. Similarly the Roman Catholic Church unconditionally recognizes the validity of ordinations in the aforementioned Eastern churches. Eastern Orthodox bishops can, and frequently do, grant recognition to the holy orders of converts who were earlier ordained in the Catholic Church (though there is much debate in Eastern Orthodoxy about this); that is part of the policy called church economy.
Some Anglican churches, unlike Protestant churches, claim to maintain apostolic succession[9] although this is not even recognised by evangelical Anglicans. The succession of Anglican bishops is however, not universally recognized. The Catholic Church judged Anglican orders invalid when Pope Leo XIII in 1896, wrote in Apostolicae Curae that Anglican orders lack validity because the rite by which priests were ordained was not correctly performed from 1547 to 1553 and from 1558 to the 19th century, thus causing a break of continuity in apostolic succession. Leo XIII condemned the Anglican ordinals and deemed the Anglican orders “absolutely null and utterly void”. Eastern Orthodox bishops have, on occasion, granted “economy” when Anglican priests convert to Orthodoxy. Changes in the Anglican Ordinal since King Edward VI, and a fuller appreciation of the pre-Reformation ordinals suggest that the correctness of the enduring dismissal of Anglican Orders may be questioned. In order to reduce doubt concerning Anglican apostolic succession, since the 1930 Bonn agreement many Anglican bishops have been consecrated by bishops of the Old Catholic Church whose holy orders are recognised by the Holy See. However this “restoration” would according to Catholic understanding only be possible, if the Old Catholic bishops involved would use a consecratory preface which used either the words “fullness of Thy ministry” or “fullness of the priesthood”, or words similar to these expressions. Therefore, all Anglican clergymen who desire to enter the Roman Catholic Church are still re-ordained, at least conditionally, but often even absolutely. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Orders
 
Ooh! Thanks everybody! Yay, answers. [rubs my hands in happyness] This is cool. I had no idea it was possible for this to happen. My worry’s all gone. 🙂 I was concerned since this area is kinda liberal.
 
Huh? How did I answer my own question? Your reply wasn’t an answer to my question. [sighs]
I am sorry. I thought by your own noting of the “usual” circumstance, you understood that there could be some “unusual” circumstances as well.

As opposed to, for example, had you posted something like "Western/Latin disciplines
Code:
only
prescribe unmarried Catholic men becoming Priests", which would have been a statement requiring correction.

tee
With no intent to unkindness, frustration, nor otherwise antagonism
 
In my area, there is a married man that used to be an Anglican Priest…and he’s come home to the Catholic Church. He has approval for joining the Catholic Priesthood and the Ordination ceremony is later on this week.

My curious question is…

How is it possible for a married man to become a Catholic Priest? As far as I knew, the Western/Latin disciplines** usually **prescribe unmarried Catholic men becoming Priests. I’d appreciate knowing the answer and please be aware I’m not making a debate thread.
Your answer is in the word I bolded above.

Celebacy is a discipline, not a dogma. It can be relaxed for good and sufficient reason.
 
The common confusion arises from confusing the nature of celibacy and the capacity to contract a marriage.

The practice is the same in all rites of the Church. When a man is ordained (even as only to a Deacon), he enters the clerical state, and is no longer in the lay state. Once in the clerical state, he can no longer calidly contract a marriage.

That is how Eastern Rite priests in the Church, and ministers from other religions who are married, can still be ordained. Having contracted marriage as laymen, the marriage is valid. By practice, the Latin Rite ordains only single men, unless special permnission is given. But this is a practice, and can be dispensed with. Celibacy is a discipline, not a requirement of the Sacrament of Holy Orders, and can also be dispensed with.

Vocational deacons, who are married, cannot remarry if they are widowed. They are clerics after their ordination. Since they cannot marry, chastity demands they remain celibate as widowers.

These events are exceptional because they are rare, not because anything irregular has happened. Only practices have been set aside, not hard and fast rules.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
Thanks for sharing the good news! It is good to see such how God works bringing His people Home.
 
Ooh! Thanks everybody! Yay, answers. [rubs my hands in happyness] This is cool. I had no idea it was possible for this to happen. My worry’s all gone. 🙂 I was concerned since this area is kinda liberal.
That is one of the ironies of the Pastoral Provision… In a few dioces more “liberal” bishops accepted the married ex-Episcopalians (and sometimes ex-Lutherans) thinking they were getting “progressives.”

Every one of the married convert priets I have met - to the man - has been rather genuinely orthodox. I rather like hearing about these conversions… not so much to look at the communities they came from to “gloat” but to be excited about what fine priests we get out of the deal…
 
By practice, the Latin Rite ordains only single men, unless special permnission is given. But this is a practice, and can be dispensed with. Celibacy is a discipline, not a requirement of the Sacrament of Holy Orders, and can also be dispensed with.
Gerry,

Just to qualify, this statement is underqailified… It really should read "the Latin Rite ordains only single men to the priesthood or episcopacy"

Not that you were intending to imply otherwise, I am sure you were not, but the 16,600+ married deacons in the Latin Church in the US alone in fact ARE ordained and do recieve the sacramental graces of Holy Orders.

Interestingly, when you count them, we have MORE clergy in the US than we did 40 years ago. That is right, for all the religious order priests we have lost, we have gained deacons…

Just a small point. Some accuse me of being hyper-sensitive (and perhaps rightly so) but a lot of people (not you, of course!🙂 ) seem to think of deacons as just grown-up Altar boys who are laity with a stole…

As trends continue, it is reasonable to expect that in the course of the next quarter century this number (now that all but one or two diocese in the US ordain them, and many programs have matured and have grown very strong) could double or triple. I firmly believe we are only just begining to really come to understand the tremendous potential and current value of these men and their ministries.

Just my 2¢. I am stepping down off my http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/soapbox/soapbox.jpg
 
Not to nitpick, but to prescribe something is to recommend it.

To proscribe something is to forbid or strongly recommend against it.

I knew there had been a few cases of Anglican/Episcopalian married priests converting and becoming Catholic priests while married. But I did not really understand. My thanks to the PP who explained about clerical state and lay state. That really made it very clear and easy to understand.
 
It IS wonderful news, isn’t it? As far as I know, this nice man is orthodox as far as leanings go. I’m not sure how hard the transition is from Anglicanism to Catholicism, but it had to surely be a challenge.

Probably the next question for this discussion is… well…do such married Priests/Deacons typically have children? Or do they avoid having children by using NFP just so their time isn’t compromised? I’m having a bit of a difficult time pondering on the ramifications of obeying Holy Orders yet also being married. I know they wouldn’t be celibate; just chaste while not denying their wife. How do our wonderful Priests/Deacons find the time for their children if they’re allowed to have any?

I’m sorry if the size is a tad large…I don’t remember what size text I used previously. It was either 3 or 4. 😊
 
In my previous parish we had 1 married Deacon (wife of 30 years and 3 grown-up children, they became grandparents for the first time last September), and 2 ex-Anglican priests, both married. Fr Peter was a grandfather of 4, and had 3 adult children, had been married 35 years. Fr Michael was a lot younger, in his 40s and had 2 young sons (I think they were 8 and 11). All three men were very very busy in the parish, their doors were always open, their wives did lots too (our Deacon’s wife was in the choir, helped out in the ‘Open Door outreach centre’ and had her own ministery for new Catholics and those wanting to go through RCIA).

So, yes, they can have children and be husbands and fathers like any other men! The only difference is, should their wives DIE (this goes for Deacons as well as the ex-Anglican priests) they CANNOT RE-MARRY! They will then be celibate for the rest of their lives.

Hope that helps!

Anna x
 
Anna,

Oh. That helps a lot. 👍 Thank you very much. I wasn’t too sure how they could juggle all that. I guess my worry was for nothing. 😊

I don’t think I have any other questions, so I guess this thread closes.
 
Although it may have been around for awhile, this process/program really took off in the mid-1970s as a result of waves of Anglicans who left the Anglican church and joined the Catholic Church after the Anglicans allowed women to be ordained. With the current controversy inthe Anglican communion over homosexual clergy, I was honestly expecting an even bigger wave to “come home”, but it appears that conservative Anglican bishops in Africa are holding the line and offering a way for conservative Anglicans in the US to stay Anglican by affiliating themselves with the African wing of teh Anglican communion.

And yes, in recent years I’ve heard of clergy of other protestant denominations (mainly Lutheran) goinmg through the same process/program.
 
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