Martin Luthers Personality

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Madaglan, I did not intend to give the impression that Nominalism was an official teaching of the Church, just that it hadn’t been -condemned- yet. The Church will often wait some time on new ideas to weigh them. Perhaps the Church waited too long in this instance, as it led to the Hussite Church (Utraquist) and the schism of the 16th century. Of course, alternate history is just speculation.

Nominalism was taught by German bishops and scholars both in Saxony where Luther was, and certainly 100 years earlier in Bohemia and Moravia where Hus was. In both cases, that seems to have been the root issue. Nationalism also played a part, in the case of the Czechs, being ruled by German princes, and German bishops who favored Nominalism. In Saxony, being Saxon as oppsed to Italian. It may have been simple for Luther and Melancton, Hus and Jerome, but it wasn’t so uncomplex among their followers or their opponents.
 
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Madaglan:
My school library carries all Luther’s works complete.
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Really? What school and do they have it on the net? You know how hard it is to find his works?
 
Rumor, yes only rumor, has it that Gibson has considered his next Catholic movie to be about the Reformation… no holds barred.

Ecumenism takes a hit… but I think it would be an overall good thing to stay with the truth andnot comprimise.
 
The reformation would be to big a task for a 2 hour film.
Another rumor has Gibson another anti-english film he enjoys them doesn’t he? Edmund Campion a(martyr)against the forces of the Anglican Church, well that is sort about the reformation.
I don’t think he will undertake either for one he endured such good will by evangelical leaders that helped make his moive a phenomina I doubt if he wants to offend a huge part of his new fanbase. This is stuff best left to history books anyway. Like the recent movie Luther it is to tempting to make a movie based on propoganda than on history its not fair to the other party the hero is battling. Movies don’t tell history especially well anyway it turns out to be propaganda more oftne than not.
Another Bibilical based film or early church era film would be the best route to go.
A film about the COnfessions of Augustine would be dynamite it explores the dark side of a pagan lifestyle and how it leads to nothing and how Christiantiy leads to meaning in life. I think Mel could make that story work.
Heck I think he lived it.
 
Tom,

Luther’s works are not that hard to find, actually. The 54-volume English edition (“Luther’s Works”) is available in most academic libraries. The better ones (libraries, that is) will also have the Weimar Ausgabe, which contains all (or almost all) of Luther’s writings in the original German and Latin. The English edition does not contain his complete works but does contain the bulk of the important ones. I’m not sure what has given you the impression that Luther’s works are hard to find, unless you insist on limiting yourself to the Internet. Find the nearest seminary or major university–they should have the English edition at least.

Maccabees,

I disagree with you about historical movies. Of course they aren’t accurate, but they don’t need to be (though it’s great when they are at least somewhat accurate). Movies and novels dramatize the past and get people interested in it–and the past is an important part of human experience which should not be left out of any genre of imaginative creation. So I hope Gibson does make a movie on Edmund Campion, for all that it will probably be extremely one-sided and annoying. There are plenty of movies (includin g_Luther_ and Elizabeth) that show the Protestant side.

I’m much less worried about a fictional movie than about a book like Crocker’s Triumph, which misleadingly purports to be history.

In Christ,

Edwin
 
I haven’t heard anything since about the Edmund Campion rumor. It is much more doable than a reformation movie. I mean how many fronts are you going to show us battling the Lutherans, anabaptist, Calvinist, Anglicans. It would be too much to show in 2 hours and not enough detail.

A story about an individual can work like Thomas Moore in the Man of All Seasons. But that didn’t cover all the reformation just one mans involvment in it. That being said all the evangelical pastors who supported the Passion would protesteth this movie.
 
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Maccabees:
I haven’t heard anything since about the Edmund Campion rumor. It is much more doable than a reformation movie. I mean how many fronts are you going to show us battling the Lutherans, anabaptist, Calvinist, Anglicans. It would be too much to show in 2 hours and not enough detail.

A story about an individual can work like Thomas Moore in the Man of All Seasons. But that didn’t cover all the reformation just one mans involvment in it. That being said all the evangelical pastors who supported the Passion would protesteth this movie.
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Hey, this is Gibson we are talking about… that means at least 3 hours:yup:
 
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Madaglan:
Can you please supply us with Church documents showing that the Church held Nominalism as an offical philosophy of the Church?

I know that Luther was an Antinominalist, but I thought that Nominalism was a theology endemic to only a few areas–such as Oxford with William of Occam.
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I am sorry Madaglan that no one answered your inquiry.

The fact is that nominalism was widely accepted as The Catholic philosophy during Luther’s time.

All the medieval history books, from Dom David Knowles OSB “The Evolution of Medieval Thought” to Etienne Gilson’s “The Spirit of Medieval Philosophy” to Marie-Diminique Chenu OP “Nature, Man and Society in the Twelfth Century” record this break down of the medieval synthesis.

Interestingly enough, I just finished reading the Penguin edition of Erasmus’ “Praise of Folly”. The introduction by professor Levi gives a good brief account of Christian philosophy through the middle ages and up until the north renaissance.

Luther’s position on many issues was essentially nominalist. These issues stem from the Scotist/Occamist view of the supremacy of the will over reason for God make divine command theory possible.

Adam
 
Mac,
I’m not sure, I obviously can not speak for anyone but myself, but I, and I think a whole lot of other Bible-believing Christians Not In Full Communion With Rome really admire Thomas Moore, and his devotion to Christ.

WhiteDove and Mac,

Luther did not launch the Reformation from the restroom. He wrote that he was studying -in the tower where also that facility was-, not whilst sitting on it.

I’m reasonably certain that Luther did -not- say that, that that was a Catholic slander against him. (not that Luther didn’t also slander Catholics :-((( )
 
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